[B-Greek] Jn 17:3 Gk syntax
Anthony Buzzard
anthonybuzzard at mindspring.com
Sat Jan 13 12:02:19 EST 2007
Oun, thanks. The word "even" seems to put Jesus
Christ in apposition to the "only one who is
truly God," but "and" keeps the two separate, the
Messiah as separate from the Father.
I don't think you insisted on this, but you had put "even" as an alternative?
Anthony Buzzard
At 11:25 AM 1/13/2007, Oun Kwon wrote:
>On 1/13/07, Anthony Buzzard <anthonybuzzard at mindspring.com> wrote:
> > Oun Kwon, I was interested in your word "even"
> > in parenthesis (below). Can one really alter the
> > sense so drastically, or is kai simply "and" here?
> >
> > Anthony Buzzard
> >
> >
> > At 10:57 PM 1/12/2007, Oun Kwon wrote:
> > >"And this [life they receive] is the eternal life,
> > >so-that they may know you the only true God
> > >and (even) the One whom you sent forth that is, Jesus Christ."
> >
> > Anthony Buzzard
> >
> >
>
>
>Thanks Anthony,
>
>Glad you have spotted it..
>
>The word (even) for KAI is put in there while I am clarifying this
>paragraph (17:3).
>
>I like to see the whole paragraph as a literary insertio in the
>middle of Jesus' intercessory prayer (Jn 17:1-26). Even if this
>paragraph belongs to Jesus' own saying (as most translations do), the
>last phrase IHSOUN CRISTON is properly to be taken as an editorial
>comment by G-John. This is a well developed post-Easter confessional
>statement and appears elsewhere only in the prologue (1:17). Placing
>this phrase in Jesus' mouth would be strange indeed. Cf. In the
>epilogue 20:31 '(this very) Jesus is Christ'.
>
>I wanted to bring a subtle shift in gear so to speak (as if from
>John's voice). If the sense rather than nuance is altered, please let
>me know how.
>
>Oun.
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Anthony Buzzard
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