[B-Greek] Phil 2.12c KATERGAZOMAI and math problems
Bryant J. Williams III
bjwvmw at com-pair.net
Sun Jan 21 00:03:01 EST 2007
Dear Mitch,
See BADG, 2nd Edition, page 421, "KATERGAZOMAI,: #2, bring about, produce,
create...'Work out someth. (Pla., Gorg. 473D hO KATEIRGASMENOS THN TURANNIDA
ADIKWS THN hEAUTWN SWTHRIAN KATERGAZESQA pHIL 2:12 (JHMichael, Phil 2:12:
Exp. 9th Ser. II, '24, 439-450).
See also, Friberg, Friberg, & Miller, An Analytical Lexicon of the Greek New
Testament, page 224, "KATERGAZOMAI," ... 1) as thoroughly working at
something whether in a good sense (2C 12.12) or bad sense (RO 1.27) do,
accomplish, commit (possibly EP6.13); 2) as achieving an effect whether in a
good sense (JA 1.3) or bad sense (RO 7.8) produce, make, bring about; 3) as
working toward an effect prepare, carefully fashion, make completely ready
(2C 5.5); 4) prevail, overcome (possibly EP 6.13).
2981 κατεργάζομαι (katergazomai): vb.; ≡ Str 2716; TDNT 3.634—1. LN 42.17
accomplish, implying something done with thoroughness (Eph 6:13); 2. LN
90.47 do, make, perform; a marker of an agent relation (Ro 1:27; 2:9); 3. LN
13.9 result in, bring about (Ro 4:15); 4. LN 77.6 prepare, make ready (2Co
5:5), from Swanson, James: Dictionary of Biblical Languages With Semantic
Domains : Greek (New Testament). electronic ed. Oak Harbor : Logos Research
Systems, Inc., 1997, S. GGK2981
katergázomai means a. “to overcome,” then b. “to work at, make” (also “to
prepare, equip”). Its main use in the NT is in Romans and 2 Corinthians, but
it is found once each in 1 Corinthians, Ephesians, Philippians, and 1 Peter,
and twice in James. It has a bad sense in Rom. 1:23; 1 Cor. 5:3 (to do a
wrong action) and 2 Cor. 7:10 (to cause death); cf. also Rom. 7:8 (sin works
covetousness). But it may also have a good sense, as in Rom. 7:18 (doing
good); 5:3 (working endurance); 2 Cor. 7:10 (producing repentance to
salvation), etc. In Eph. 6:13 it may refer to preparation for battle or the
overcoming of opposition. The ultimate subject of the word in this good
sense is God or Christ (cf. Rom. 15:18; 2 Cor. 12:12), for it is he who
makes the gift of salvation and fashions us for new and eternal life (2 Cor.
5:5). [G. Bertram, III, 634-35], from Kittel, Gerhard ; Friedrich, Gerhard
; Bromiley, Geoffrey William: Theological Dictionary of the New Testament.
Grand Rapids, Mich. : W.B. Eerdmans, 1995, c1985, S. 421
AT Robertson, Word Pictures in the NT, Volume 4, page 446, "Work out
(katergazesthe). Perfective use of KATA (down) in composition, work on to
the finish."
Finally, Kenneth Wuest, Wuest's Word Studies: Philippians in the Greek New
Testament for the English Reader, page 73, "The words 'work out' are the
translation of a Greek word which means 'to carry out to the goal, to carry
to its ultimate conclusion.' We say, 'The student worked out a problem in
arithmatic.' That is, he carried the problem to its ulitmate conclusion.
This is the way it is used here. The Philippians are exhorted to carry their
salvation to its ultimate conclusion, namely, Christlikeness.' "
The preacher you referred to above had to obtain the example from Wuest. I
take it that Wuest used the arithmatic problem as an example of "working
out" NOT that the word means that. It actually means "to work out, carry or
bring something to its ultimate conclusion or completion." It looks like it
requires the accusative case to show what is worked out, etc.
En Xristwi,
Rev. Bryant J. Williams III
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From: "Mitch Larramore" <mitchlarramore at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 4:38 PM
Subject: [B-Greek] Phil 2.12c KATERGAZOMAI and math problems
>
> ...META FOBOU KAI TROMOU THN hEAUTWN SWTHRIAN
> KATERGAZESQE
>
> A preacher said that the verb KATERGAZOMAI was used
> (not sure if he meant back in Classical Greek or in
> earlier Hellenistic Greek) for working out or solving
> a mathematical problem step-by-step.
>
> Any readers of extra-biblical Greek ever run across this?
>
> Mitch Larramore
> Sugar Land, Texas
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>
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