[B-Greek] Dative participial clauses

Elizabeth Kline kline_dekooning at earthlink.net
Sat Jul 7 16:24:27 EDT 2007


On Jul 5, 2007, at 4:52 AM, Carl W. Conrad wrote:

> Preliminary unscientific foreword: Classical author Thucydides  
> certainly is; prototypical he is anything but. On the other hand,  
> these are from narrative rather than from speeches, and these texts  
> are themselves readily intelligible enough.

Carl,

I selected G.Cooper's citations from Thucydides primarily because I  
had the Harvard text of Thucydides at hand. Cooper also cites  
Xenophon and the pattern is similar to what we saw in Thucydides.

X.A. 3.5.7-8

Ἐπεὶ δὲ ἐπὶ τὰς σκηνὰς ἦλθον, οἱ  
μὲν ἄλλοι περὶ τὰ 2 ἐπιτήδεια ἦσαν,  
στρατηγοὶ δὲ καὶ λοχαγοὶ συνῇσαν.  
καὶ 3 ἐνταῦθα πολλὴ ἀπορία ἦν.  
ἔνθεν μὲν γὰρ ὄρη ἦν ὑπερύψηλα,  
ἔνθεν δὲ ὁ ποταμὸς τοσοῦτος βάθος  
ὡς μηδὲ τὰ δόρατα ὑπερέχειν  
πειρωμένοις τοῦ βάθους.  
ἀπορουμένοις 2 δ’ αὐτοῖς προσελθών  
τις ἀνὴρ Ῥόδιος εἶπεν· Ἐγὼ θέλω, ὦ  
3 ἄνδρες, διαβιβάσαι ὑμᾶς κατὰ  
τετρακισχιλίους ὁπλίτας, ἂν 4 ἐμοὶ  
ὧν δέομαι ὑπηρετήσητε καὶ  
τάλαντον μισθὸν πορίσητε.


EPEI DE EPI TAS SKHNAS HLQON, hOI MEN ALLOI PERI TA 2 EPITHDEIA HSAN,  
STRATHGOI DE KAI LOCAGOI SUNHiSAN. KAI 3 ENTAUQA POLLH APORIA HN.  
ENQEN MEN GAR ORH HN hUPERUYHLA, ENQEN DE hO POTAMOS TOSOUTOS BAQOS  
hWS MHDE TA DORATA hUPERECEIN PEIRWMENOIS TOU BAQOUS. APOROUMENOIS 2  
D' AUTOIS PROSELQWN TIS ANHR hRODIOS EIPEN: EGW QELW, W 3 ANDRES,  
DIABIBASAI hUMAS KATA TETRAKISCILIOUS hOPLITAS, AN 4 EMOI hWN DEOMAI  
hUPHRETHSHTE KAI TALANTON MISQON PORISHTE.

Once again we have switched reference. The [referent of the] subject  
of the pre-verbal dative participle APOROUMENOIS is STRATHGOI KAI  
LOCAGOI. The subject of PROSELQWN and EIPEN is TIS ANHR hRODIOS. Once  
again we have a pronoun AUTOIS to deal with but I think that is a  
minor distraction. I wonder why Cooper selected this example to  
illustrate a loosely connected pre-verbal dative participle? Perhaps  
there is some reason I am not aware of that a dative would not  
construe with the participle PROSELQWN.

X.A. 6.3.10

Χειρίσοφος δὲ ἀσφαλῶς πορευόμενος  
παρὰ θάλατταν 2 ἀφικνεῖται εἰς  
Κάλπης λιμένα. Ξενοφῶντι δὲ διὰ τῆς  
3 μεσογείας πορευομένῳ οἱ ἱππεῖς  
καταθέοντες ἐντυγχάνουσι 4  
πρεσβύταις πορευομένοις ποι.

CEIRISOFOS DE ASFALWS POREUOMENOS PARA QALATTAN 2 AFIKNEITAI EIS  
KALPHS LIMENA. XENOFWNTI DE DIA THS 3 MESOGEIAS POREUOMENWi hOI  
hIPPEIS KATAQEONTES ENTUGCANOUSI 4 PRESBUTAIS POREUOMENOIS POI.

Here the subject of POREUOMENWi is XENOFWNTI. The subject of  
ENTUGCANOUSI is hOI hIPPEIS. ENTUGCANOUSI takes a dative argument but  
it is PRESBUTAIS not XENOFWNTI.




Elizabeth Kline







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