[B-Greek] Present Tense
Seth
sethvm at gmail.com
Tue Jul 10 00:31:48 EDT 2007
I'll be happy to research the archives. There's no need to make this an
ideological war, as I certainly just wanted to know more about the greek.
Thanks to all,
Seth Moran
On 7/9/07, Carl W. Conrad <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu> wrote:
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2007, at 6:16 AM, Seth Moran wrote:
>
> > Hi B-Greek Listers!
> >
> > I hope you're all having a blessed day today. Please read on!
> >
> > DIDASKEIN DE GUNAIKI OUK EPITREPW OUDE AUQENTEIN ANDROS ALL EINAI
> > EN HSUXIA
> > (1 Tim. 2:12).
> >
> > The Koine words that are in question (in view of the greater
> > context of the
> > passage) are DIDASKEIN and AUQENTEIN. Some expositors claim that
> > since these
> > verbs are in the "present, active, infinitive," it should be
> > deduced that
> > Paul is speaking about continual regularity in regard to teaching and
> > leading; as opposed to individual, finite instances of teaching or
> > exercising authority. Thus, it should be deduced that Paul was
> > referring to
> > the question of who would hold positional authority to instruct and
> > lead (
> > i.e., the congregational pastor), and that he was not referring to
> > isolated
> > instances where a woman could theoretically find herself teaching or
> > exercising authority over a man, perhaps as a lay-leader of sorts.
> >
> > Contextually and linguistically speaking, is this conclusion valid?
>
> This vexed passage has been discussed almost ad infinitum (ad
> nauseam?) in this forum (a BG Google search for AUQENTEIN -- http://
> tinyurl.com/34o2ru
> --, which tends to be cited as such in BG-transliteration, would
> bring to light several threads from the past decades. You will find
> much heat and some light among these discussions, and you should
> expect the same in any new discussion of it in response to your
> present inquiry. I do hope that respondents will keep the discussion
> focused within the boundaries of what THIS Greek text as a Greek text
> may possibly mean and not get into doctrinal issues.
>
>
> Carl W. Conrad
> Co-Chair, B-Greek List
>
>
--
Seth Moran
A man's pride will bring him low,
but a humble spirit will obtain honor.
Proverbs 29:23
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