[B-Greek] ANTI in Heb. 12:2 = local metaphor?
Webb
webb at selftest.net
Thu Jun 7 01:42:00 EDT 2007
My money is on BDAG mng. (4), in agreement with Carl Conrad--under which, for some reason BDAG do not list Heb. 12:2 as a possible example--or, failing that, conceivably something like I've proposed: that the author is evoking the idea of the joy being "across" on the opposite side of the cross from Jesus. None of the other meanings make good sense to me.
Webb Mealy
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From: b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Iver Larsen
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Subject: Re: [B-Greek] ANTI in Heb. 12:2 = local metaphor?
Comparing with the earlier version, there is only a very slight change.
In the earlier one they said at the end for Heb 12:2 "sense 3 is also poss(ible)..."
But in the new one they say: "sense 3 is also prob(able)..."
So, they still give both options, but have slightly upgraded sense 3 in terms of probability.
I have no qualms about disagreeing with BDAG and BAGD at this point. The main entry for this verse
should not be under #1.
Iver Larsen
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From: "George F Somsel" <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] ANTI in Heb. 12:2 = local metaphor?
It is under #1
① indicating that one person or thing is, or is to be, replaced by another, instead of, in place of
ἀντὶ τοῦ πατρὸς αὐτοῦ Ἡρῴδου [ANTI TOU PATROS AUTOU hHRWiDOU] in place of his father Herod Mt 2:22
(cp. Hdt. 1, 108; X., An. 1, 1, 4; Appian, Mithrid, 7 §23 Νικομήδης ἀντὶ Προυσίου ἐβασίλευε
[NIKOMHDHS ANTI PROUSIOU EBASILEUE], Syr. 69 §364; 3 Km 11:43; Tob 1:15, 21; 1 Macc 3:1; 9:31 al.;
Jos., Ant. 15, 9). ἀ. ἰχθύος ὄφιν [A. IXQUOS OFIN] instead of a fish, a snake Lk 11:11 (Paroem. Gr.:
Zenobius [Hadr.] 1, 88 ἀντὶ πέρκης σκορπίον [ANTI PERKHS SKORPION], prob. from Attic comedy: Kock
III 678 [Adesp.]; Paus. 9, 41, 3 Cronos receives ἀντὶ Διὸς πέτρον [ANTI DIOS PETRON] to swallow). ἀ.
τῆς προκειμένης αὐτῷ χαρᾶς [Page 88] ὑπέμεινεν σταυρόν [A. THS PROKEIMENHS AUTWi XARAS hUPEMEINEN
STAURON] Hb 12:2 (cp. PHib 170
[247 b.c.] ἀντὶ φιλίας ἔχθραν [ANTI FILIAS EXQRAN]; 3 Macc 4:6, 8); sense 3 is also prob.,
depending on the mng. of πρόκειμαι (q.v. 2 and 3). Cp. Hs 1:8; 9, 29, 4.
Arndt, W., Danker, F. W., & Bauer, W. (2000). A Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament and other
early Christian literature. "Based on Walter Bauer's Griechisch-deutsches Wr̲terbuch zu den
Schriften des Neuen Testaments und der frhchristlichen [sic] Literatur, sixth edition, ed. Kurt
Aland and Barbara Aland, with Viktor Reichmann and on previous English editions by W.F. Arndt, F.W.
Gingrich, and F.W. Danker." (3rd ed.) (87). Chicago: University of Chicago Press.
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