[B-Greek] Luke 8:27
George F Somsel
gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 29 07:35:10 EDT 2007
Greetings, fellow Hoosier.
The AUTWi is the subject of the participle in this verse. The participial phrase tells you when the events narrated in the main verb occurred -- "When he debarked on the land …" You are correct regarding the demoniac being the subject rather than the object here. EK THS POLEWS would indicate the origin of the man yet it also states that he "stayed in [among, near] the tombs" which would indicate his more immediate origin.
george
gfsomsel
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From: Rod Rogers <rngrogers at earthlink.net>
To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:45:56 PM
Subject: [B-Greek] Luke 8:27
I'm having some problems translating Luke 8:27. Here is the text:
EXELQONTI DE AUTW EPI THN GHN hUPHNTHSEN ANHR TIS EK THS POLEWS EXWN DAIMONIA KAI XRONW hIKANW OUK ENEDUSATO hIMATION KAI EN OIKIA OUK EMENEN ALL EN TOIS MNHMASIN.
I'm sure AUTW is part of the participial phrase "EXELQONTI DE AUTW" but I'm not sure how to understand AUTW. Is it a simple dative with "Gaderene" as it's antecedent or is it emphatic meaning "He (Jesus himself) came out (of the boat) or could it be a dative of time as some grammars suggest (after He came out of the boat)..... or what ever?
Also, several translations seem to make the ANHR (EXWN DAIMONIA) the direct object instead of the subject. Sounds confusing to me. Shouldn't it be that the demoniac meets Him (Jesus) not Jesus meets the demoniac?
One last thing. Several translations make EK THS POLEWS imply that the demoniac was once a citizen of the city but now resides in the MNHMASIN. I'm not debating where the demoniac resides but the text of Luke 8:27 is not saying that with EK THS POLEWS. Isn't hUPHNTHSEN ANHR TIS EK THS POLEWS EXWN DAIMONIA saying that a certain man with a demon comes out of the city to meet...... (Jesus)?
Sorry for so many questions but I'm reluctant to disagree with so many translations. Carl, I have read your comments on "Dative Participle Luke 8:27" back in 1999 but I'd still like to ask these questions if you don't mind. I guess what I don't know is how you know AUTW is the subject of EXELQONTI.
rod rogers
Bargersville, In
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