[B-Greek] 1 John 3:3 - Antecedent of AUTW?

Pete Harwood pete at pengefamilychurch.org
Thu May 3 05:18:50 EDT 2007


Thanks everyone for your comments. I can see that it can
be quite a challenging exercise! Good for the brain I guess...

Pete.

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Subject: Re: [B-Greek] 1 John 3:3 - Antecedent of AUTW?


This is an ambiguity like that of the "objective or subjective  
genitive." The point of drawing in the parallels of Rom 15:12 and 1  
Tim 4:10 is to establish a probability of usage in a potentially  
ambiguous phrase (from our perspective). Both of these passages have  
some form of the verb ELPIZW with EPI and a pronoun in the dative.  
Since ELPIS is a "verbal noun" or an "event noun" it can, by analogy,  
reasonably be expected be found in similar constructions with EPI and  
the dative. Furthermore, Rom 15:14 is a quote from the LXX, and this  
gives us a clue that EPIZW/ELPIS EP' AUTWi may be a semitism/ 
Septuagintalism [the MT has "the nations will [come] seeking him," =  
(i.e. "rally to him)]. A phrase similar to the one in 1 John 3:3 is  
found in Psalms of Solomon 5:14, TO DE DOMA SOU POLU META CRHSTOTHTOS  
KAI PLOUSION KAI hOU ESTIN hH ELPIS EPI SE OU FEISETAI EN DOMATI.  
"Your abundant and rich gift [comes] with goodness and  you will not  
be shrink back in generosity [i.e. gift] from the one whose hope is  
in you.
Yancy Smith
yancywsmith at sbcglobal.net
5636 Wedgworth Rd.
Fort Worth, TX 76133
817-361-7565

Yancy Smith
yancywsmith at sbcglobal.net
5636 Wedgworth Rd.
Fort Worth, TX 76133
817-361-7565




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