[B-Greek] John 2:1 Who was invited?

Mark Cain mark at markcain.com
Sun May 6 18:09:01 EDT 2007


Pardon me for not making my train of thought clearer.

Since it appears to me that Mary, the mother of Jesus, assumes 
responsibilities beyond the role of a typical guest such as 1) concern for 
the depleted wine supply and 2) access to give directions to the servants at 
the feast, could it be that she is there in a supportive role; but Jesus is 
there as a guest?  Could the words EKLHQH DE indicate this contrast of roles 
(supportive vs guest)? or are you saying that EKLHQH DE KAI can only be 
translated as additive?

Mark Cain
Sarasota, FL USA


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
To: "Mark Cain" <mark at markcain.com>
Cc: "greek B-Greek" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] John 2:1 Who was invited?


>
> On May 6, 2007, at 3:36 PM, Mark Cain wrote:
>
>>
>> In John 2:1 ff we find the account of the Marriage Feast in Cana of
>> Galilee.
>> Verse 1 states that the mother of Jesus was there -- but verse 2
>> says that
>> Jesus was invited. The verb to "invite" or "call" is 3rd Person
>> Singular
>> Aorist Passive Indicative.  Would the structure of EKLHQH DE show a
>> hint of
>> emphasis with a contrast of the prior statement i.e. "was there"
>> vs. "But
>> invited"?
>>
>> My reading of the context shows that Mary may be more familiar with
>> the
>> feast than the "typical" guest;
>> 1) it is stated that she "was there" as opposed to being invited
>> 2) she is concerned with the depleted wine supply
>> 3) she is comfortable in directing the servants
>
> Text: 2 EKLHQH DE KAI hO IHSOUS KAI hOI MAQHTAI
> AUTOU EIS TON GAMON
>
> I don't see the point of your question. Verse two is not a matter of
> contrast
> but of addition: "And Jesus and his disciples had also been invited
> to the
> wedding." I think the two opening verses are simply introducing the key
> participants in the account being presented.
>
> Carl W. Conrad
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