[B-Greek] hEWS AN--"While" (Heb. 1:13)?
Webb
webb at selftest.net
Thu May 10 13:26:11 EDT 2007
Thanks, Iver. I suspect that it's better to focus in on hEWS AN +
subjunctive for this particular inquiry, rather than on hEWS by itself.
As for why Lattimore could come up with "so that", I think I know what he
was thinking. If I say, "Wait a sec while I tie my shoe", doesn't that
really mean, "Wait a sec so that I can tie my shoe"? Lattimore is
understanding the command + hEWS AN + subjunctive as implying purpose, and
he is making the notion of purpose explicit.
Webb Mealy
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Subject: Re: [B-Greek] hEWS AN--"While" (Heb. 1:13)?
That hEWS does not have the same implications as English "until" has been
discussed before. I think
the latest thread was from 23-25 May, 2005. Search for hEWS in the archives.
The intended meaning is
often best expressed by "while" as in Heb 1:13, but I cannot see how it
could be "so that".
A small study on this topic is available from the following site:
http://www.geocities.com/bible_translation/list/files/until.doc
Iver Larsen
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From: "Webb" <webb at selftest.net>
To: "'B Greek'" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:37 AM
Subject: [B-Greek] hEWS AN--"While" (Heb. 1:13)?
> KAQOU EK DEXIWN MOU hEWS AN QW TOUS ECQROUS SOU UPOPODION TWN PODWN SOU
>
> I was about to render Heb. 1:13 (quoting Ps. Ps. 109:1 LXX [=110:1
English])
> similarly to the way I've seen it in many English translations:
>
> Sit on my right, until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.
>
> But then I read Lattimore's rendering, and it got me thinking.
>
> Sit on my right, so that I may make your enemies a footstool for your feet
>
> I started thinking that we don't say "until", but "while", to convey what
I
> suspect the statement might be getting at:
>
> Sit on my right, while I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.
>
> Does anyone want to demonstrate that hEWS AN always has to mean "until",
in
> the sense that most English speakers would get from it, that carries the
> implication that the "sitting on the right" comes to an end when God's
> making footstools of the enemies comes to an end? BAGD lists the sense
> "while" for hEWS (def. 2: see Mk 14:32; Lk. 17:8), but, apart from those
> instances of hEWS AN that come from this LXX quotation (6/19) and that in
> Mt. 12:20, the NT instances all clearly mean "until".
>
> Webb Mealy
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