[B-Greek] Romans 8:28
George F Somsel
gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Sat Nov 3 11:17:45 EDT 2007
Text
Οἴδαμεν δὲ ὅτι τοῖς ἀγαπῶσιν τὸν θεὸν πάντα συνεργεῖ εἰς ἀγαθόν, τοῖς κατὰ πρόθεσιν κλητοῖς οὖσιν.
OIDAMEN DE hOTI TOIS AGAPWSIN TON QEON PANTA SUNERGEI EIS AGAQON, TOIS KATA PROQESIN KLHTIOS OUSIN.
I get the impression that you think that the original and early copies were much like our modern editions. It might be helpful if you were to take a look at
http://alpha.reltech.org/cgi-bin/Ebind2html/BibleMSS/TischendorfSinv4?seq=133
Bear in mind that this is what is known as a "pseudo-facsimile", i.e. it is NOT a photograph of the original document but rather a copy made to accurately represent what the appearance of its original was like. The passage with which you are concerned begins at line 30 in the third column. Note that there is no punctuation given (nor indeed word division). Therefore, when you ask what Greek grammar calls for, this depends upon how the particular Greek scholar happens to read a text since it wasn't present in the early copies we have. Actually, your question seems to be more about the English translation than about the original text. In the Greek QEON (God) and TOIS KATA PROQESIN KLHTOIS OUSIN (to those who are called according to his purpose) do not occur together so there would be no punctuation setting one off from the other.
george
gfsomsel
Therefore, O faithful Christian, search for truth, hear truth,
learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
defend the truth till death.
- Jan Hus
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----- Original Message ----
From: J Fincher <indoffga at yahoo.com>
To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2007 7:55:18 AM
Subject: [B-Greek] Romans 8:28
Good morning,
What is the consensus for the punctuation in Romans 8:28. Does Greek grammar call for the comma in the usual place of separating "God" and "to"? Also, is it possible for "to them who are the called" to be a clause? In other words, could it be reflecting back to the former clause, and not the latter as the punctuation below implies?
Romans 8:28 KJV And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to [his] purpose.
John Fincher
Atlanta, GA
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