[B-Greek] XENIZONTA TINA--Acts 17:20
Webb Mealy
webb at selftest.net
Mon Nov 12 12:09:18 EST 2007
George, neither I nor Carl was thinking about an adverbial role for TINA. If they had meant, “To a certain extent you are bringing unfamiliar things to our ears”, I suppose it would have had to have been TI. But I can’t imagine exactly how the sentence would have looked in that case.
Webb Mealy
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From: George F Somsel [mailto:gfsomsel at yahoo.com]
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Subject: Re: [B-Greek] XENIZONTA TINA--Acts 17:20
What Carl failed to mention, though I'm sure that this was what he had in mind, is that the accusative is not infrequently used as an adverb which is what would be required here. Porter states the matter fairly succintly
1.5. Adverbial Usage
In some instances an adjective may be used—often in the accusative case—as a modifier of a verbal rather than a substantival element. These examples are confined to a relatively small group of words, and[ appear to have been treated by users of Greek as adverbial in function, even though they might be called accusatives of respect or accusatives of time (see Chapter 4 sections 2.3.3 and 2.3.4).
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george
gfsomsel
Therefore, O faithful Christian, search for truth, hear truth,
learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
defend the truth till death.[2]
On Nov 11, 2007, at 9:59 PM, Webb Mealy wrote:
> XENIZONTA GAR TINA EISFEREIS EIS TAS AKOAS hHMWN (Acts 17:20)
> I'm tempted to understand this as saying, "You're bringing somewhat
> unfamiliar ideas to our ears".
I think that's pretty good, actually.
> Can "somewhat" be the nuance brought in by TINA, or is it really,
> "You're
> bringing some unfamiliar ideas to our ears"?
See BDAG s.v. TIS (indef. rather than interr.): 1.b. (adj.) beta:
"serving to moderate or heighten"; aleph: "to moderate an expr. that
is too definite (Just., D. 48, 1 [λόγος LOGOS] . . .
παÏάδοξός τις . . . δοκεῖ μοι εἶναι
PARADOXOS TIS ... DOKEI MI EINAI [your statement], in my judgment,
does not make much sense …"
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
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george
gfsomsel
Therefore, O faithful Christian, search for truth, hear truth,
learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
defend the truth till death.
- Jan Hus
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[1]
Porter, S. E. (1999). Idioms of the Greek New Testament (121). Sheffield: JSOT.
[2] - Jan Hus
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Carl Conrad <cwconrad2 at mac.com> wrote:
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