[B-Greek] word/phrase to be supplied
George F Somsel
gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Fri Nov 30 09:48:20 EST 2007
Mt 13.56
καὶ αἱ ἀδελφαὶ αὐτοῦ οὐχὶ πᾶσαι πρὸς ἡμᾶς εἰσιν; πόθεν οὖν τούτῳ ταῦτα πάντα;
KAI hAI ADELFAI AUTOU OUXI PASAI PROS hHMAS EISIN, POQEN OUN TOUTWi TAUTA PANTA
To put something of a point of what Carl stated, πόθεν POQEN is an interrogative adv inquiring regarding the source of something. In the context of the passage Jesus had been teaching so the source of his teaching would have been what he learned from others so it would indicate that they were inquiring regarding who taught him.
george
gfsomsel
Therefore, O faithful Christian, search for truth, hear truth,
learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
defend the truth till death.
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----- Original Message ----
From: Carl Conrad <cwconrad2 at mac.com>
To: Mitch Larramore <mitchlarramore at yahoo.com>
Cc: B Greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 9:26:54 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] word/phrase to be supplied
On Nov 30, 2007, at 9:00 AM, Mitch Larramore wrote:
> KAI POLLOI AKOUONTES EXEPLHSSONTO LEGONTES, POQEN
> TOUTWi TAUTA;
>
> And many hearing [him] were amazed saying, "From where
> [did] this one [learn] these things?
This is, of course, an Englished version of the Greek text; it doesn't
reflect the structure of the Greek formulation, wherein the cited
question has the form of a typical dative of possession -- woodenly
literal it would be Englished, "whence to this one (are) these things?"
> Have there been any studies done regarding which kind
> of words/phrases were often omitted/understood/to be
> supplied in the first century? Sometimes the
> word/phrase to be supplied is more substantial than
> other times. Here, we must supply [learn] without
> which the sentence makes no sense.
>
> Finally, should I look for words to be supplied even
> when the given statement is a complete thought? Maybe
> there is more than what's on the surface?
I would think one needs first to analyze the elements in the syntactic
structure; in this instance the expected verb is a form of EIMI, which
is regularly omitted when its implicit presence is clear.
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
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