[B-Greek] Greek font question
Daniel Nordlund
djnordlund at verizon.net
Wed Apr 9 21:09:54 EDT 2008
Sarah et al.,
I use BibleWorks on a regular basis (frozen at version 6 for the moment), so I am not anti-BibleWorks. But while BibleWorks fonts are freely available, encouraging the use of them, and embedding fonts of any kind in documents simply continues the madness that led Sarah to begin this thread. If you don't have the fonts used in the document, you can only read it if the fonts are embedded, and you still can't edit the document freely.
The solution is to use Unicode fonts and UTF encoding. Then anyone with any Unicode font (not just the specific one used originally) that covers the language of interest can read and freely edit the document, using whatever keyboard they are used to. There are plenty of Unicode fonts available at no cost (well only the cost of a download), so you can probably even find a font that appeals to your own sense of style.
Well, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. :-)
Dan
Daniel Nordlund
Bothell, WA USA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On
> Behalf Of Sarah Madden
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 2:57 PM
> To: Mike Holmes
> Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Greek font question
>
> To all --
> I particularly like using BibleWorks fonts (and I can provide a keyboard
> conversion "map" if anyone so desires). The fonts are free from BibleWorks'
> Web site -- or I can send them to you -- but they do need to be embedded to
> port from one document to another. They are nice looking and easy to use.
>
> Embedding would be a good solution particularly if someone has documents
> from various sources, or a document composed of pieces that were cut and
> pasted into it with various fonts.
>
> Sarah
> sarah.r.madden at gmail.com
>
>
> On 4/9/08, Mike Holmes <holmic at bethel.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Sarah described nicely how to embed fonts--one good way to deal with this
> > issue.
> >
> > A second way would be to install on the computer currently being used the
> > same fonts used in composing the paper. If one no longer has access to the
> > original computer (with its installed fonts), this may be the only way to
> > recover the files in usable form.
> >
> > For new files, Unicode is the way to go, precisely to avoid this problem.
> > (Randall's e-mail gives the details on this, including conversion programs
> > for old files).
> > Mike
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
> > [mailto:b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Sarah Madden
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 3:19 PM
> > To: Perry Stepp
> > Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> > Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Greek font question
> >
> > Perry --
> > The problem is that your fonts were not embedded. It is an easy thing to
> > fix
> > -- if you can first bring the document up on whatever computer has the
> > fonts
> > installed. The next steps are crucial.
> >
> > Click File / Save As.
> > A dialog box will appear.
> >
> > Click Tools (in the upper right).
> > A drop-down menu will appear.
> >
> > Click Save Options
> > A dialog box will pop up labeled "Save."
> >
> > Click in the box next to "Embed TrueType fonts" so a checkmark appears.
> >
> > Click "OK" and "Save."
> > *This embeds your fonts* in that document so you can read the fonts in
> > that
> > document on another computer. HOWEVER, I don't think you can create
> > another
> > document easily because I think it only saves the actual characters that
> > were typed.
> >
> > Sarah
> > sarah.r.madden at gmail.com
> > Maryland - U.S.A.
> >
> >
> > On 4/9/08, Perry Stepp <plstepp at kcu.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > A question for the more technically-minded list members:
> > >
> > > Why do my Greek and Hebrew fonts keep falling out of my manuscripts?
> > >
> > > I'm using a school computer and school software. Word, MS Office
> > > 2003; I'm using the Scholars Press fonts, SPIonic, etc.
> > >
> > > When I open a document that was written on another computer, even
> > > though I'm using the same version of Word (not the same version of
> > > Windoze, our new computers have XP Pro) and the same fonts, all the
> > > Greek and Hebrew characters have been replaced by these little empty
> > > boxes.
> > >
> > > I'm trying to work with old documents, editing them into a new
> > > manuscript, and I need the Greek to work. Very frustrating. And
> > > there doesn't seem to be a way to recover the document with the Greek
> > > intact.
> > >
> > > What causes this? Is there a remedy, or a way to recover the
> > > inflected Greek?
> > >
> > > Are there Greek fonts that are more stable than SPIonic, which WON'T
> > > collapse and fall out of my documents?
> > >
> > > PLS
> > >
> > > Perry L. Stepp, Ph.D.
> > >
> > > Dean, Sack School of Bible & Ministry
> > > Associate Professor, Bible & Theology
> > > Kentucky Christian University
> > >
> > > scholarly blog: http://www.pastoralepistles.com
> > > not: http://theophiluspunk.blogspot.com
> > >
> > >
> > > "Every once in a while, you get shown the light In the strangest of
> > > places, if you look at it right."
> > > --Robert Hunter, "Scarlet Begonias"
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sarah
> > sarah.r.madden at gmail.com
> > work: 301.429.8189
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>
>
>
> --
> Sarah
> sarah.r.madden at gmail.com
> work: 301.429.8189
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