[B-Greek] Rom 3.23 and temporal implicature

George F Somsel gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Sun Apr 20 05:16:36 EDT 2008


Yes, I would say so, and so did Cranfield
 
ὑστεροῦνται τῆς δόξης τοῦ θεοῦ [hUSTEROUNTAI THS DOCHS TOU QEOU]. Taken by itself, ἡ δόξα τοῦ θεοῦ [hH DOCA TOU QEOU] could, of course, mean ‘the approbation of God’, as it does in in Jn 12:43 (cf. 5:44), and it is so understood here by some. But it is more probable that the reference is to that share in the divine glory, which, according to Jewish thought, man possessed before he fell away from his true relationship to God and which will be restored in the eschatological future (cf. 5:2; 8:18, 21, 30). As a result of sin all men lack this illumination by the divine glory. Here both the tense of the verb and the fact that its subject is πάντες should be noted. They clearly imply that not only all other men but also all believers still lack this ‘glory of God’. Attempts to soften this or to explain it away have the disastrous effect of obscuring the transcendent majesty of the glory which is yet
 to be ours. 
 
Cranfield, C. E. B. (2004). A critical and exegetical commentary on the Epistle to the Romans (204). London; New York: T&T Clark International.
 
george
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----- Original Message ----
From: Mitch Larramore <mitchlarramore at yahoo.com>
To: B Greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:27:50 PM
Subject: [B-Greek] Rom 3.23 and temporal implicature

PANTES GAR hHMARTON KAI hUSTEROUNTAI THS DOXHS TOU
QEOU

I am wondering how the finite verbs in the aorist KAI
present tenses impact each other. Does one have
precedence over the other, or is there any "rules" to
go by to help an exegete accurately translate this
verse? Assuming the aorist and present are to be
understood in their temporal relationship, does the
present tense (following an aorist) denote
"consequence"? All sinned and consequently ...



Mitch Larramore
Sugar Land, Texas


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