[B-Greek] Martyrdom of Peter 4:11 -- "from this time" or "at this time"
George F Somsel
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Wed Aug 20 14:55:25 EDT 2008
I'm inclined to think that the absence of EN with this expression is not so much an indication of a difference in meaning as a difference in the time at which it was written.
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The dative was exposed to a greater extent than either the accusative or genitive to the encroachment of various prepositions, especially ἐν[EN] and εἰς [EIS], on the function of the simple case. The complete disappearance of the dative which is evident in MGrand its replacement by (the genitive or) the accusative tallies with this and with the disappearance of the use of the dative with prepositions (Schwyzerii170f.; Mlt.62f.[93]; cf.the dative for εἰς§199). In the meantime it is still retained in the NTin a wide range of usages.—G. N. Hatzidakis, Ἀθηνᾶ41 (1929) 3–9; J. Humbert, La disparition du datif en grec(du Ierau Xesiècle), Paris, 1930; O. Merlier, BCH55 (1931) 207–28; Mayserii2, 240ff.; D. Tabachovitz, Museum Helveticum3 (1946) 147–51, 154f.
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Blass, F., Debrunner, A., & Funk, R. W. (1961). A Greek grammar of the New Testament and other early Christian literature (100). Chicago: University of Chicago Press.
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george
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Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Martyrdom of Peter 4:11 -- "from this time" or "at this time"
George F Somsel wrote:
This precise phrase appears in Mt 11.25, 12.1 and 14.1. In each case it appears to signify time when.I note that in these instances -- as well as apparently all others in both "Biblical" and "secular" Greek in which ἐκείνῳ τῷ καιρῷ (EKEINWi TWi KAIRWi) is used, the expression in question is always prefaced, as it is not in Martyrdom of Peter, with EN.
Does that make a difference?
Jeffrey
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