[B-Greek] HGGIKEN + EPI

Oun Kwon kwonbbl at gmail.com
Mon Feb 4 18:11:25 EST 2008


2008/2/4 Carl Conrad <cwconrad2 at mac.com>:

>
> On Feb 4, 2008, at 9:39 AM, George F Somsel wrote:
>
> > What I don't see is that BDAG supports the NET assertion.
> >
> > ② to draw near in a temporal sense, draw near, come near, approach
> > (POxy 1202, 8; w. dat., Epict. 3, 10, 14; Tat. 37:1). W. indications
> > of time (KClark, JBL 59, '40, 367–83) the hour Mt 26:45; the day
> > (Ezk 7:4; 12:23) Ro 13:12; Hb 10:25; the (feast) day GJs 1:2; 2:2;
> > ὁ καιρός [hO KAIROS] (La 4:18; 1 Macc 9:10) Lk 21:8; cp. Mt
> > 21:34; ὁ χρόνος [hO XRONOS] Ac 7:17; the Passover Lk 22:1;
> > the end 1 Pt 4:7; the final stumbling-block B 4:3; cp. ending of Mk
> > in the Freer ms. 8; the judgment GPt 7:25; destruction of the temple
> > Lk 21:20; redemption vs. 28. μέχρι θανάτου ἐ. [MEXRI
> > QANATOU E.] come close to dying Phil 2:30 (cp. Job 33:22; Sir 51:6
> > ἤγγισεν ἕως θανάτου [HGGISEN hEWS QANATOU]).
> > PKatz, TZ 5, '49, 7; ADebrunner, Mus. Helv. 11, '54, 58f.—Esp.
> > of the approaching Reign of God: ἤγγικεν ἡ βασιλεία
> > τῶν οὐρανῶν (or τοῦ θεοῦ) [HGGIKEN hH BASILEIA
> > TWN OURANWN (or
> > TOU QEOU)] Mt 3:2; 4:17; 10:7; Mk 1:15; Lk 10:9, 11
> >
> >
> > Note that the reference for the passage is Lk 10.11 rather than
> > 12.11.  BDAG specifically cites this verse in the sense of "drawing
> > near" or "approaching" rather than "has come."
>
> No, I don't think that BDAG actually "supports" the NET assertion.
> What BDAG does -- in the portion of def. 2 that you omitted -- is cite
> an article arguing that point: " (WHutton, ET 64, '52/53, 89–91:
> HAS COME for the Lk passages)." BDAG simply indicates an alternative
> view of EGGIZW in Luke that it doesn't support. NET pointed to it and
> accepted Hutton's view, evidently. That I think is what Vasilis
> Tsialis was stating more directly in his initial response to the
> question of this thread:
>
>
>
I am a little confused:
Oun
When I checked BDAG it says p. 270 (right column) under

1 (with circle around)  to move in space and so draw clore to a reference
point, ....
   β. w. prep.: W. εις .....
                    W. ἐπὶ, τινα Lk 10:9 ....

 Oun Kwon.


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