[B-Greek] an interesting book in archive.org
vasilis tsialas
tsialas78 at hotmail.com
Thu Feb 7 04:54:27 EST 2008
Dear Randall,
Thank you very much for your enlightening comments.
As regards Δαβίδης, this one of the many extreme hellenized forms
Josephus did. For me, as a Greek, it is very funny to read Josephus'
efforts to give Greek suffixes to Hebrew names.
Of course, because of the face that the most common text in use was that of LXX and GNT, Josephus's transliterations
did not prevail in the Greek literature. In modern Greek, I would like to add, Δαβίδ is now the standard spelling rather than Δαυίδ.
Vasileios Tsialas,
Athens Greece
> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:35:48 +0200> From: randallbuth at gmail.com> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org; tsialas78 at hotmail.com> Subject: an interesting book in archive.org> > EGRAPSAS> > >Trying to find details about the spelling of Ιωάννης/Ιωάνης,> > I discovered a very interesting book entitled Philology of the Gospels.> > The book is available in> > http://www.archive.org/details/philologyofthego00blasuoft.> > Tsialas Vasileios,> > EYXAARISTW SOI, TSIALA,> > The Blass book, Philology of the Gospels, is a classic.> > I see your question on IWANHS.> > You may have noticed that I spell my second name> IWANHS Ιωανης.> > I do this for the same reasons that Blass accepts this> spelling.> It best fits the Hebrew, without a dageshed nun anywhere,> and more importantly, it is attested that way in the old> mss., notably B Vaticanus.> > In addition, there is a 1c ossuary in the Rockefeller Musuem here> in Jerusalem with a neat IWANHS inscribed on the side.> Westcott and Hort accepted IWANHS.> > [[But somewhere between then and now the powers that> control the NA//UBS text apparently decided to re-spell good> first century GNT with Erasmus-friendly spellings, but> without telling people what they were doing.> > Somewhere in previous editions it was explained that "experts"> in first century spelling were correcting a "4-5th century spelling> bias" with first century spellings. Unfortunately, the "experts"> did not do that. WH were already correct, properly regularized,> and the papyri finds had already established that. It appears> more likely that people just didn't want a canonical text to spell> things in ways that they could not pronounce (like HLEIAS,> DAUEID, and PEILATOS), and they wouldn't want to pronounce> things anything close to Luke or Paul or IWANHS.> A question that I ask myself, if the GNT wrote DAUEID would> seminarians start saying "daweyd", or would they say> "dawiid", maybe even "dhaviidh"? A friend of mine here uses a> Joseph-ian DABIDHS "dhaviidhes", from I don't know what> manuscript tradition.]]> > For others who want a copy of Blass' book:> the link in the list email didn't work for me, but it is available there.> > Go to www.archive.org> in their search engine type "philology gospel" and you have> two copies with multiple reading and downloading options.> > ERRWSQE> IWANHS> > -- > Randall Buth, PhD> www.biblicalulpan.org> χάρις ὑμῖν καὶ εἰρήνη πληθυνθείη> שלום לכם וברכות> randallbuth at gmail.com
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