[B-Greek] Learning Greek (ad nauseam and for the umpteenth time)

knpraise at comcast.net knpraise at comcast.net
Thu Jul 17 14:58:14 EDT 2008


Thank you..  

I am currently working on a course of some sort, prepared by me (a layman) for that part of the congregation   ( a Baptist congregation with a wonder heart)  that is hungry for something other than a 1,489th exposition of John 3:16.   

I just finished an adult class using Experiencing God with a heavy emphasis on Barth's theology but without wuoting Barth,  only the scripture he used.  They loved it.  

In this class,  I think I am going to stress, as a first line of "exegetical' study, (and I did put that in quotes),  I am planning on suggesting a comparative sduty of several bibles;  a greek interlinear,  the Mesage, the New Living Bible,  the NASV,  the MRSV and maybe the NKJV.   They can compare thought translations, literal translations, and so on.   Anyway,  I see a value in this.  

A second approach involves an interlinear, a lexicon  (and I am planning on recommending Thayer because of cost and the fact that I have found very little difference between him  and A&G.)  I do not want them to use WE Vine and many have this word study.  They will be exposed to the Analytical Lexicon, a decent first year grammar  (I was taught with Ray Summers  --  I have no idea as to a good first year grammar - Mounce ?!).  I have found much good in asking myself,  "what if the author meant to imply this [lexical]  nuance rather than that nuance."  It seems to me  that definition is one thing and nuance is another.   

Your order of events is a good working model.  Thanks again 

Pastor John Smithson (ret)
jsjohnnt at aol.com
technically, Barth was a layman !!




-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Bryant J. Williams III" <bjwvmw at com-pair.net> 

> Dear John, 
> 
> May be an example from New Tribes Mission is a good example of what Carl, et al, 
> have been saying. 
> 
> A missionary friend of mine is Papua, New Guinea for about 10 years. BEFORE he 
> could start talking to the people about the gospel he had to do the following: 
> 1. Learn the language of the people. 
> 2. Talk to them in the language of the people. 
> 3. Listen to a story in the language of the people. 
> 4. Repeat back the story he was listening to in the language of the 
> people. 
> 5. Write down the story in the language of the people. 
> 6. Then translate the story into his language (English). 
> 7. Tell them a story (non-biblical) in the language of the people. 
> 8. Ask/answer questions in the language of the people about the story in 
> the language of the people. 
> 9. Now, begin to tell the story of salvation in the language of the 
> people beginning in Genesis. 
> 10. Repeat steps 1-9, again, again, again, again, again, ad infinitum. 
> 
> En Xristwi, 
> 
> Rev. Bryant J. Williams III 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Carl W. Conrad" 
> To: 
> Cc: "B-Greek B-Greek" 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:32 AM 
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Learning Greek (ad nauseam and for the umpteenth time) 
> 
> 
> > 
> > On Jul 16, 2008, at 1:11 AM, (John Smithson) knpraise at comcast.net wrote: 


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