[B-Greek] A Couple of Questions Concerning Reference Works
George F Somsel
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Fri Jul 18 00:07:11 EDT 2008
You might consider that no one finds it particularly worth the effort to take precious time to argue the matter with someone who is determined to maintain a particular position. If you wish to be stubborn, that is your prerogative. You won't get much support from the academic community.
george
gfsomsel
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----- Original Message ----
From: Mark Lightman <lightmanmark at yahoo.com>
To: B-Greek at lists.ibiblio.org; Will Dilbeck <will.dilbeck at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:47:23 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] A Couple of Questions Concerning Reference Works
If you already own Robertson, you need to buy Wallace about like
Bill Gates needs to buy a lottery ticket.
I'm on record as arguing BDAG is way overrated. I insist that if you
look up the same word in Bauer and Thayer, some times you will
find Bauer more helpful, at least as often Thayer. I have challenged
the good folks on this list to show me one thing in Thayer that the
papyri or any modern research has proven wrong, and no on has
ever been able to come up with anything, I guess because such
does not exist. Bauer is good, however, if you are reading the
Apostolic Fathers, which you will want to do at some point, as
he includes every word found there.
The other thing that seems very obvious to me, but I guess not to
anyone else on this list, is that the Intermediate Liddell and Scott
(i.e. the Middle Liddel not the Little Liddel) is really just as good
as the Great Scott because the format is so much easier, it
includes rare forms in alphabetical order, and, more to the point,
what you really need help on is the RARE Greek words, and the
entries on these tend to be about the same in both editions. So,
in my opinon a Thayer and a Middle Liddel is better than the
third edition of Bauer and still cheaper. I also think if you own
Thayer you would want to buy the Exhaustive Concordance to the
Greek New Testament before you buy any other lexicon since a look
at this helps better than anything to understand the range of NT
meanings.
Mark L.
--- On Wed, 7/16/08, Will Dilbeck <will.dilbeck at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Will Dilbeck <will.dilbeck at gmail.com>
Subject: [B-Greek] A Couple of Questions Concerning Reference Works
To: B-Greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 5:07 PM
All,
I would like to ask a couple of questions concerning reference works. First
of all, I have Robertson's "Greek Grammar in Light of Historical
Research"
and I was wondering if it would be worth getting Wallace's "Greek
Grammar
Beyond the Basics." Wallace's volume is not that expensive, but my
money
could be used more effectively if his book wouldn't really add a lot to
what
Robertson covers in his work.
Secondly, I have Kittel's TDNT, and many other lexicons, but I do not have
Bauer and Danker's "Greek-English Lexicon of the N.T. and Other
Christian
Literature." I realize this lexicon is preferred by many, but it is quite
expensive. Would it really give me information that I do not have in the
TDNT volumes and the other Lexicons (Thayer, Liddell & Scott, etc.)?
Thanks in advance.
Will
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