[B-Greek] UBS2 Distinctiveness
George F Somsel
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Fri Jul 25 23:59:43 EDT 2008
When I was in seminary I used a Kilpatrick edition of the GNT which was not that different from the NA text. When a difference was encountered it came as something of a surprise since there were so few differences. I much preferred it since my copy had beautiful, legible type compared with the NA and was leather bound.
george
gfsomsel
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From: Carlton Winbery <winberycl at earthlink.net>
To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:52:23 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] UBS2 Distinctiveness
>If memory serves correctly, Kilpatrick was credited as editor of a Greek
>text I once saw that was billed as the text underlying the New English Bible
>. . . could be wrong, it's a distant recollection.
>James Ernest
>
>On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Wieland Willker <wie at uni-bremen.de> wrote:
>
>> I think the base text was the then current NA25, but I am not sure.
>> I remember vaguely that before the UBS editions Kilpatrick was assigned to
>> create a new GNT. He prepared drafts that were circulated, but never got
>> into print AFAIK.
>> I don't know why the UBS changed their mind and set up the committee then.
>> Perhaps because Kilpatrick's text didn't get enough acceptance?
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Wieland
>> <><
>> ------------------------------------------------
> > Wieland Willker, Bremen, Germany
Wieland,
Kilpatrick was the editor for at least one edition of the British and
Foreign bible Societies Greek NT. He gave me a copy in 1983 when I
was in Oxford and had the privelege of meeting with him fortnightly
to discuss his writings on the GNT text. He was a "thorough going
eclectic." and was highly critical of the move to wed the UBS 3 with
the N.-A. 25. He called it the new "textus receptus." He was working
on an edition of Mark which gave far more textual information than
the UBS texts. I think that the first edition of the New English
Bible made some use of his text. It had more textual information than
the earlier editions of the B.& F. It was still not enough to satisfy
people like George Caird who was a died in the wool Westcott & Hort
man and also the chair of the NT committee. I do not know that they
were ever totally dependent on the B.& F. texts.
When I was in Oxford for the year (1983-84), I spoke in a lot of
churches, especially baptist. I took with me a copy of the New
English Bible and read from it in the services. One Sunday I was
invited home for lunch and was told in no uncertain terms that
Baptists in England prefered the Revised Standard Version, an
American translation, to the NEB. I started making my own translation
to read in the worship service with much more favorable comments.
Caird died suddenly on Saturday before Easter Sunday 1984. I sat by
Kilpatrick at Cairds funeral the next week. He was working in his
woodworking shop when he suffered the fatal heart attack. I also sat
in on Caird's lectures on John during the Michalmas term in 1983 and
talked with him about C.H. Dodd and his two masterful books on John.
Grace,
Carlton Winbery
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Carlton L. Winbery
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Louisiana College
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