[B-Greek] BDAG - EPITIMAW

Oun Kwon kwonbbl at gmail.com
Sun Jul 27 17:13:26 EDT 2008


Thanks, Carl.

I am more or less  a splitter. I like to split and label, before I can
be a joiner.

Seeing a more fundamental sense you mentioned, it may deserve to go as
the top level definition.

Oun.

On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Carl Conrad <cwconrad2 at mac.com> wrote:
>
> On Jul 27, 2008, at 2:16 PM, Oun Kwon wrote:
>
>> EPITIMAW
>>
>>
>> I am briefly quoting from BDAG p. 384 (underlining is mine)
>>
>>
>> (1) *to express strong disapproval of someone, rebuke, reprove, censure **
>> also speak seriously, warn in order to prevent an action or brig one to an
>> end** *
>>
>> (2*) punish*
>>
>>
>> I believe BDAG should have separted out the part underlined ( *also speak
>> seriously, warn in order to prevent an action or brig one to an end** *) and
>> lists examples (e.g. Lk 9:21) separated. 'Rebuke" and 'Warn' are different
>> enough to deserve to be treated separately.
>
> You may be thinking more in terms of the way English differentiates these notions. My sense is that the fundamental sense of the Greek is something like "speak judgmentally" -- a notion that is broader than these various senses expressed in sensse (1) and also includes sense (2).
>
> L&N have:
> 33.331 ἐπιτιμάω EPITIMAW b: to command, with the implication of a threat — 'to command.'
> and
> 33.419 ἐπιτιμάω EPITIMAW  a: to express strong disapproval of someone — 'to rebuke, to denounce.'
>
>
> Carl W. Conrad
> Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
>
>
>


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