[B-Greek] Question about the 1st person plural form of *PERIPATE in present active indicative

Matthew Blair mpblair at gmail.com
Sat Mar 1 12:01:55 EST 2008


George,

Thank you.  It appears that my confusion is over the PERIPATWMEN in 1 John
1:6, which I took to be 1 plural pres act ind also.

...MET AUTOU KAI EN TWO SKOTEI PERIPATWMEN,...
...with him and in darkness we are walking...

What then, is the tense, voice, and mood of PERIPATWMEN?

Thanks,

Matthew

2008/3/1 George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>:

>  Περιπατέω [PERIPATEW], as the lemma shows, is a contract verb.  the "ε"
> [E, epsilon] of the root contracts with the ending to form the following
>
>    +
>  ε
>  η
>  ο
>  ω
>  ει
>>  ου
>  οι
>  α
>  α
>  α
>  ω
>  ω
>>>  ω
>>  ε
>  ει
>  η
>  ου
>  ω
>  ει
>>  ου
>  οι
>  ο
>  ου
>  ω
>  ου
>  ω
>  οι
>  οι
>  ου
>  οι
>
> <http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ids=1fw6vr42tnziw#1186b3d11161554d__ftn1>
> <http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ids=1fw6vr42tnziw#1186b3d11161554d__ftnref1>
>
> The 1 pl pres act ind appears in 2 Cor 5.7
>
> διὰ πίστεως γὰρ περιπατοῦμεν, οὐ διὰ εἴδους·
> DIA PISTEW GAR PERIPATOUMEN OU DIA EIDOUS
>  <http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ids=1fw6vr42tnziw#1186b3d11161554d__ftn1>
> <http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ids=1fw6vr42tnziw#1186b3d11161554d__ftnref1>
> george
> gfsomsel
>
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> From: Matthew Blair <mpblair at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [B-Greek] Question about the 1st person plural form of *PERIPATE
> in present active indicative
>
> Hi all,
>
> For the verbal root PERIPATE, how is the 1st person plural formed in the
> present active indicative?
>
> My answer would be this: the epsilon at the end of the root, along with
> the
> connecting vowel (omicron) should contract to form OU.  Then add the
> personal ending (-MEN) to arrive at PERIPATOUMEN.  This answer seems to be
> consistent with the presentation in Mounce's BBG.
>
> However, I notice that 1 John 1:6 has the form as PERIPATWMEN.
>
> The best I can come up with for this discrepancy is that possibly the
> verbal
> root has a consonontal iota added to form the present tense stem, and so
> the
> omicron-iota combination would contract to an omega, and then the epsilon
> on
> the root would contract into the omega.  But this is pure speculation on
> my
> part.
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Matthew
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