[B-Greek] TA PANTA in Ephesians 4:15

swalchy at thewaytoyahuweh.com swalchy at thewaytoyahuweh.com
Tue Mar 18 14:17:25 EDT 2008


The same phrase (EIS AUTON TA PANTA) occurs in Romans 11:36, which is
usually translated "to him [are] all things."

In Colossians 1:20 TA PANTA comes before EIS AUTON (KAI DI AUTOU
APOKATALLAXAI TA PANTA EIS AUTON), and is usually translated "and through
him to reconcile to himself all things"

Hope that helps a bit :)

Stephen Walch

-----Original Message-----
From: Hugh Donohoe Jr. [mailto:justusjcmylord at yahoo.com] 
Sent: 18 March 2008 02:38
To: blist greek
Subject: [B-Greek] TA PANTA in Ephesians 4:15

I read through Ephesians this week. It was the first time I had read through
it while doing a detailed syntactical analysis. I notice now when I come
across a construction that makes me scratch my head, inevitably there is
divergence in how the different translations deal with it. TA PANTA was
another example of this. Here is the verse:

ALHQEUONTES DE EN AGAPHi AUXHSWMEN EIS AUTON TA PANTA

I made quick scan of the many times Paul uses TA PANTA. He consistently uses
the idiom with an "all things" idea and in situations in which there is no
ambiguity about what he meant. I am not challenging an "all things" idea
here. It just cannot English it in a way that is intelligible. And I am not
sure exactly what Paul meant which is another reason why I am vacillating on
how to view the phrase. Another factor is the preposition EIS. EIS PANTA has
an "in every way, in all respects" idea. But does the definite article still
make the idiom valid? Several modern translations have gone this route.
Incidentally I tried to do a quick scan of the NT and the LXX for the phrase
EIS with TA PANTA. I did not find any. But it was not a fastidious effort.
So what is the
relationship between EIS, AUTON, and TA PANTA? Ultimately, this will decide
the meaning.

ex animo

Hugh Donohoe




 
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