[B-Greek] Jussive Dative?

Elizabeth Kline kline_dekooning at earthlink.net
Wed Mar 19 19:44:02 EDT 2008


On Mar 19, 2008, at 3:28 PM, Edgar Foster wrote:

> Dear B-Greekers,
>
> I've been translating certain books of the Iliad with
> some colleagues of mine and we use Leaf's commentary
> to help us understand what transpiring in certain
> parts of the Iliad. While translating book 9 of the
> Iliad, we ran across some terminology in Leaf that had
> us befuddled. Leaf talks about a "jussive dative," if
> I am not mistaken. While his explanation of what a
> jussive dative is supposed to be, I would like to ask
> if anyone else on the list has run across this
> terminology before. I'm sorry that I do not have the
> exact quote, but I can supply it later. I tried to
> access Leaf's commentary through Perseus, but the site
> gave me problems. I guess my questions are what is a
> jussive dative and is this standard terminology in
> Greek studies? I've tried finding this nomenclature in
> other grammars and might have just overlooked it.
>
>

I should leave this for Carl to answer.

I think it is safe to say that "jussive dative" is not a standard  
term. I did find a brief mention in G.Cooper 2.48.6.1.B of a dative  
used in contexts that are imperatival. He gives several examples none  
of them from Iliad IX.

5:249 MOI

249 {•} ἀλλ’ ἄγε δὴ χαζώμεθ’ ἐφ’  
ἵππων, μηδέ μοι οὕτω 250 θῦνε διὰ  
προμάχων, μή πως φίλον ἦτορ ὀλέσσῃς.

14:501 MOI

500 {_} πέφραδέ τε Τρώεσσι καὶ  
εὐχόμενος ἔπος ηὔδα· 501 εἰπέμεναί  
μοι Τρῶες ἀγαυοῦ Ἰλιονῆος 502 πατρὶ  
φίλῳ καὶ μητρὶ γοήμεναι ἐν  
μεγάροισιν·

I have no idea if this is related to your authors "jussive dative"  
you should pin the question down to a passage if you want to discuss it.


Elizabeth Kline







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