[B-Greek] Warning Stone Acts 21:28

Bill Barton phos at windstream.net
Sat Mar 22 17:29:33 EDT 2008


On Saturday, March 22, 2008, 5:48 AM Carl Conrad wrote:

>This is not a matter of substitution at all, but an alternative word 
>formed not from MHD(E) + hEIS/MIA/hEN but from MHT(E) + hEIS/MIA/hEN  --  
>with the T aspirated because of the rough-breathing of the hEIS. It  is 
>found once only in the GNT: Acts 27:33  εσσαρεσκαιδεκάτην σήμερον ἡμέραν 
>προσδοκῶντες ἄσιτοι διατελεῖτε  μηθὲν προσλαβόμενοι. [TESSARAKAIDEKATHN 
>SHMERON  hHMERAN PROSDOKWNTAS ASITOI DITELEITE MHQEN PROSLABOMENOI.] The 
>form  OUQEIS for OUDEIS is more frequent in the GNT: Luke 22:35, 23:14, 
>Acts 15:9, 19:27, 26:26, 1Cor. 13:2, 2Cor. 11:9. One encounters these 
>forms OUQEIS and MHQEIS more in inscriptions than in literary texts,  but 
>Aristotle uses them regularly.
>
>Carl W. Conrad
>Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)

>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bill Barton" <phos at windstream.net>
>> To: <B-Greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 9:58 PM
>> Subject: [B-Greek] Warning Stone Acts 21:28
>>
>>Liddell and Scott says the earlier of TRUFAKTOS was DRUFAKTOS.

>>And in the Septuagint I see both MHDEN (e.g. Deut 28:55) and MNQEN (e.g. 
>>Gen 19:8).

>>I'm wondering what would motivate people to make a D -> Q substitution as 
>>these two examples illustrate.  Is MHQEN easier to say than MHDEN?


Thanks so much, I didn't realize that.

I see now that Greenlee mentions some of this ("A New Testament Greek 
Morpheme Lexicon," p. 85):

MHDE = MH + DE
MHTE = MH + TE
MHDEIS = MH + DE + hEIS/MIA/hEN

Concerning DRUFAKTOS, Liddell and Scott (p. 451) says, "later TRUFAKTOS." 
Hence the D apparently was later substituted with a T.

I'm supposing that the noun DRUFAKTOS ultimately derives from FRASSW, "to 
fence in."


Regards,

Bill Barton

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