[B-Greek] Using "Father God" in prayer

George F Somsel gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Fri Nov 7 16:25:18 EST 2008


Παῦλος καὶ Σιλουανὸς καὶ Τιμόθεος τῇ ἐκκλησίᾳ Θεσσαλονικέων ἐν θεῷ πατρὶ καὶ κυρίῳ Ἰησοῦ Χριστῷ, χάρις ὑμῖν καὶ εἰρήνη. 
PAULOS KAI SILOUANOS KAI TIMOQEOS THi EKKLHSIAi QESSALONIKEWN EN QEWi PATRI KAI KURIWi IHSOU XRISTWi, XARIS hUMIN KAI EIRHNH
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Elizabeth has already noted that no use of the vocative addressing God occurs in the NT.  QEOS within 2 words of PATHR in other cases does, however, occur in 45 passages.  I selected "within 2 words" in order to catch such formulations as QEOS [article] PATHR and QEOS KAI PATHR.  I did not specify any particular case so there are various cases involved.  
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John 8:42
Acts 3:13
Acts 5:30
Acts 7:32
Acts 22:14
Romans 1:7
Romans 15:6
1 Corinthians 1:3
1 Corinthians 8:6
1 Corinthians 15:24
2 Corinthians 1:2
2 Corinthians 1:3
2 Corinthians 11:31
Galatians 1:1
Galatians 1:3
Galatians 1:4
Ephesians 1:2
Ephesians 1:3
Ephesians 4:6
Ephesians 5:20
Ephesians 6:23
Philippians 1:2
Philippians 2:11
Philippians 4:20
Colossians 1:2
Colossians 1:3
Colossians 3:17
1 Thessalonians 1:1
1 Thessalonians 1:3
1 Thessalonians 3:11
1 Thessalonians 3:13
2 Thessalonians 1:1
2 Thessalonians 1:2
2 Thessalonians 2:16
1 Timothy 1:2
2 Timothy 1:2
Titus 1:4
Philemon 3
James 1:27
1 Peter 1:2
1 Peter 1:3
2 Peter 1:17
2 John 3
Jude 1
Revelation 1:6
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I'm not sure whether you are attempting to justify / discredit such usage based on its use / non-use in the NT, but why should prayer be simply a catena of scripture passages?  In any case, this forum is really not the place to decide that question.
 george
gfsomsel 


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defend the truth till death.


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From: Wayne F Steury <waynesteury at earthlink.net>
To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Friday, November 7, 2008 9:46:28 AM
Subject: [B-Greek] Using "Father God" in prayer

In Paul's letters he often uses the phrase - EN QEW PATRI - (en qew patri) in referrring to God the Father.  It seems to be trendy to address God as "Father God" in some circles.  Do any of you see Paul's address in 1 Thessalonians 1:1 as "in Father God"?


Dr. Wayne F Steury
www.bernenazarene.org
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