[B-Greek] Rom 8:10 TO DE PNEUMA ZWH

Tom Moore tom at katabiblon.com
Sat Oct 18 13:37:17 EDT 2008


Thanks for the answers. I should have double-checked PNEUMA; I goofed on the gender agreement.

LSJ lists ZWOS (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph.jsp?l=zwos&la=greek). And though Abbot-Smith doesn't list ZWOS directly, it does list ZWGREW (<ZWOS, alive, + AGREUW); ZWOGONEW (< ZWOS, alive, GENESQAI); ZWiON (< ZWOS, alive).

I had wanted to know whether the noun ZWH could mean "alive" rather than "life" in this context since it is standing against NEKROS rather than QANATOS. But if there is a proper way to say "the spirit is alive"--TO PNEUMA ZWON--so that TO PNEUMA ZWH clearly means "the spirit is life", are the few translations that do read "the spirit is alive" (http://bible.cc/romans/8-10.htm) therefore incorrect?

Tom Moore

>  -------Original Message-------
>  From: Nikolaos Adamou <nikolaos.adamou at hotmail.com>
>  Subject: RE: [B-Greek] Rom 8:10 TO DE PNEUMA ZWH
>  Sent: Oct 18 '08 14:07
>  
>  πνεῦμα ζωὴ διὰ δικαιοσύνην
>  
>  There is not Greek Word as ZWOS.
>  There is a Greek Word ZWON but ζώον=annimal.
>  
>  It is correct
>  and there is an agreement
>  ζωὴ διὰ δικαιοσύνην
>  
>  but the spirit is life because of righteousness
>  
>  πνεῦμα and ζωὴ are in a syntactical agreement, since both are
>  in nominative.
>  πνεῦμα is ζωοποιόν but not ζώον
>  
>  --------------------
>  Nikolaos Adamou, Ph.D.
>  Associate Professor of Business Management
>  BMCC / CUNY
>  
>  
>  > Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:27:18 -0400
>  > From: nebarry at verizon.net
>  > To: tom at katabiblon.com; b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>  > Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Rom 8:10 TO DE PNEUMA ZWH
>  >
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: "Tom Moore" <tom at katabiblon.com>
>  > To: <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
>  > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 4:15 PM
>  > Subject: [B-Greek] Rom 8:10 TO DE PNEUMA ZWH
>  >
>  >
>  > > Romans 8:10: Εἰ δὲ χριστὸς ἐν ὑμῖν, τὸ
>  μὲν σῶμα νεκρὸν διὰ ἁμαρτίαν, τὸ δὲ
>  > > πνεῦμα ζωὴ διὰ δικαιοσύνην [EI DE CRISTOS
>  EN hUMIN, TO MEN SWMA NEKRON DIA
>  > > hAMARTIAN, TO DE PNEUMA ZWH DIA DIKAIOSUNHN]
>  > >
>  > > The body is dead but the spirit is: life (ZWH)? or alive (ZWOS)?
>  > >
>  > > Neither BDAG nor Abbott-Smith include an entry for ZWOS. By omitting
>  ZWOS,
>  > > are they excluding it as a possibility for Romans 8:10? Should it be
>  > > included as a possibility?
>  >
>  > To be from the adjective, it would have to be ZWON to agree with the
>  neuter
>  > singular PNEUMA.
>  >
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