[B-Greek] 1 Timothy 3:15
Carl Conrad
cwconrad2 at mac.com
Sun Oct 26 22:33:27 EDT 2008
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> Subject: RE: [B-Greek] 1 Timothy 3:15
> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:47:33 -0400
>
>
>> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:49:54 -0700
>> From: edgarfoster2003 at yahoo.com
>> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>> Subject: [B-Greek] 1 Timothy 3:15
>
> ἐὰν δὲ βραδύνω, ἵνα εἰδῇς πῶς δεῖ
> ἐν οἴκῳ Θεοῦ ἀναστρέφεσθαι,
> ἥτις ἐστὶν ἐκκλησία Θεοῦ ζῶντος,
> στῦλος καὶ ἑδραίωμα τῆς ἀληθείας.
>
> EAN DE BRADUNW, hINA EIDHiS PWS DEI EN OIKWi QEOU ANASTREFESQAI,
> hHTIS ESTIN EKKLHSIA QEOU ZWNTOS, STULOS KAI EDRAIWMA THS ALHQEIAS
> (1 Timothy 3:15 NA27).
> But if I tarry long that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to
> behave thyself
> in the house of God which is the church of the living God, the
> pillar and ground of the truth.
>
> 1 Timothy 5:4
> εἰ δέ τις χήρα τέκνα ἢ ἔκγονα ἔχει,
> μανθανέτωσαν
> πρῶτον τὸν ἴδιον οἶκον εὐσεβεῖν
> EI DE TIS XERA TEKNA H EGKONA EXEI,
> MANTHANETWSAN PRWTON TON IDION OIKON EUSEBEIN
> But if any widow have children or grandchildren (NOT nephews),
> let them learn first to show piety at home
>
> 1 Timothy 5:8
> εἰ δέ τις τῶν ἰδίων καὶ μάλιστα τῶν
> οἰκείων οὐ προνοεῖ,
> EI DE TIS TWN IDIWN KAI MALISTA TWN OIKEIWN OY PRONOEI
> But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his
> own house,
>
>> My question is a basic one, I
> think. Is the author's mention of OIKWi QEOU in this text connected
> with 1 Timothy 5:4, 8 where the constructions TON IDION OIKON and TWN
> IDIWN KAI MALISTA OIKEIWN occur?
>
> 1) οἶκος τοῦ Θεοῦ = έκκλησία (chruch) -
> OIKOS TOY THEOU
> House of God, not household or home
> 2) τὸν ἴδιον οἶκον = at your own home - TON
> IDION OIKON
> 3) τῶν οἰκείων (ὁ οἰκεῖος) = the one of
> your own house, the one very close to you - OIKEIOS
>
> In the first two cases the noun is the same but used with a
> different meaning.
> In the last case the adjective is derived from the noun οἶκος
> but there is no connection in the meaning of these three uses.
>
>> What discourse strategy (if any) is at work in 1 Timothy 3:15?
> 1 Timothy 3:15 is the second part of the hope statement
>
> Ταῦτά σοι γράφω ἐλπίζων ἐλθεῖν πρός
> σε τάχιον·
> TAYTA SOI GRAFW ELPIZWN ELTQEIN PROS SE TAXION:
> These things write I unto thee, hoping to come unto thee shortly:
>
> 1 Tim 3:16 is direction that Timothy should behave approprietly in
> the church of God in the case that St. Paul delays.
>
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