[B-Greek] What we can live with (was papyrus text)
Suttles, Andrew C. (GRC-DSI0)
andrew.c.suttles at nasa.gov
Mon Apr 13 09:37:10 EDT 2009
Dr. Smith -
> The Erasmian pronunciation scheme is part of a system that has rarely produced students capable of actually thinking or much less communicating in Greek. <
It seems we may be asking a "pronunciation scheme" to carry a burden it's not capable of bearing.
Andrew
Cleveland, OH
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>Mark EGRAPSE:
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>I can't really explain why I can live with TA and TO sounding
>alike but not TO and TWi.
>
>If you want to make a convert to Living Koine out of one of
>the most articulate defenders of Erasmus out there (me), you
>are going to have to convince him how he CAN live with it.
>
> I for one wish we could live with a higher standard in
>teaching/ learning Greek at a seminary level. A standard to
>which Dr. Buth's comments point indirectly. The "imprecision"
>in the spelling of Greek in the papyri is an indicator of a
>living language in use: something toward which our teaching
>and learning should strive. I have used LIVING KOINE for
>non-traditional students in seminary who have learning
>disorders (e.g. unable to memorize the alphabet). I lament,
>however, that we could not use it for traditional students.
>The problem was not the students, but lack of faculty unable
>to try something other than the dismally unsuccessful
>traditional appraoch.
> We should judge the traditional approach by the same
>standard we use to determine the success or failure of any
>other foreign language teaching program. The Erasmian
>pronunciation scheme is part of a system that has rarely
>produced students capable of actually thinking or much less
>communicating in Greek.
>
> Success in these two areas would certainly lead to greater
>facility in understanding the texts of ancient Christians.
>Perhaps it would lead to greater quality in the application of
>the fruits of exegesis.
>
>Yancy Smith, Ph.D.
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