[B-Greek] hARPAX Mt 7:15
Tom Moore
tom at katabiblon.com
Sun Apr 26 23:24:12 EDT 2009
Mark,
Thanks for the additional examples.
re: "If hARPAX were the only adjective that ended in a palatal, what would your point be?"
I simply wasn't expecting that the neuter nom. sg. could be the same as the masculine and feminine nom. sg.; therefore I didn't understand that BDAG, by listing only one form, is indicating that such is the case, and it puzzled me that a true adjective would not have a neuter form. I have since found these referenced in Smyth (312) as "adjectives of one ending."
Regards,
Tom Moore
> -------Original Message-------
> From: Mark Lightman <lightmanmark at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] hARPAX Mt 7:15
> Sent: Apr 23 '09 02:21
>
> Tom,
>
> Good question.
>
> Just among adjectives that occur more than ten times,
> Homer has three that end in a palatal: (MWNUX, KALLIQRIX,
> and hELIX μωνυξ, καλλιθριξ, ἑλιξ) I would think Greek
> has
> many more, although they may be relatively rare simply because
> nouns that end in a palatal are not all that common. But I'm
> curious. If hARPAX were the only adjective that ended in a
> palatal, what would your point be? If one wanted to construe
> hARPAGES as a noun in apposition to LUKOI, there is
> no reason not to.
>
> On a sort of related note. Amplified refers to an interesting
> echoe to Mt. 7:15 in LXX Ez. 22:27: hOI APCONTES AUTHS EN
> MESWi AUTHS hWS LUKOI hARPAZONTES ARPAGMATA
> TOU EKXEAI hAIMA οἱ αρχοντες αυτης εν μεσῳ
> αυτης ὡς λυκοι
> ἁρπαζοντες αρπαγματα του εκχεαι αἱμα
> ("like wolves that
> seize booty.") This is pretty much what the Hebrew says too.
> I've notice this many times myself, that in the
> words of Jesus you are more likely to get a rough paraphrase
> of the OT, rather than an exact quote.
>
> Mark L.
>
>
> --- On WED, 4/22/09, TOM MOORE _<TOM at KATABIBLON.COM>_ wrote:
> From: Tom Moore <tom at katabiblon.com>
> Subject: [B-Greek] hARPAX Mt 7:15
> To: B-Greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 3:30 PM
>
>
> Is ἅρπαξ -αγος (hARPAX -AGOS) a noun or an adjective? BDAG says
> adjective. LSJ seems to indicate a noun. While there are lots of nouns with
> stems in -K, -G, -C, none of which are neuter, this is the only adjective I
> can find with a palatal stem. If it is an adjective, what would be its
> neuter? If its a noun, how do we understand Matthew 7:15, where it
> certainly seems adjectival? � ροσέχετε ἀπὸ τῶν
> ψευδοπροφητῶν, οἵτινες ἔρχονται πρὸς
> ὑμᾶς ἐν ἐνδύμασιν προβάτων, ἔσωθεν
> δέ εἰσιν λύκοι ἅρπαγες. PROSECETE APO TWN
> YEUDOPROFHTWN, hOITINES ERCONTAI PROS hUMAS EN ENDUMASIN PROBATWN, ESWQEN
> DE EISIN LUKOI hARPAGES. [Matthew 7:15] Thanks, Tom Moore --- B-Greek home
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