[B-Greek] 2Cor. 5:1-3 participle clause

Elizabeth Kline kline_dekooning at earthlink.net
Sun Aug 2 14:12:18 EDT 2009


On Jul 31, 2009, at 11:22 PM, Iver Larsen wrote:

>  A present participle like this one indicates an
> event that is simultaneous with the main verb and it can be quite a  
> distance
> away.
.
2Cor. 5:1 Οἴδαμεν γὰρ ὅτι ἐὰν ἡ  
ἐπίγειος ἡμῶν οἰκία τοῦ σκήνους  
καταλυθῇ, οἰκοδομὴν ἐκ θεοῦ ἔχομεν,  
οἰκίαν ἀχειροποίητον αἰώνιον ἐν  
τοῖς οὐρανοῖς.  2 καὶ γὰρ ἐν τούτῳ  
στενάζομεν τὸ οἰκητήριον ἡμῶν τὸ  
ἐξ οὐρανοῦ ἐπενδύσασθαι  
ἐπιποθοῦντες,  3 εἴ γε καὶ  
ἐκδυσάμενοι οὐ γυμνοὶ εὑρεθησόμεθα.
.
2COR. 5:1 OIDAMEN GAR hOTI EAN hH EPIGEIOS hHMWN OIKIA TOU SKHNOUS  
KATALUQHi, OIKODOMHN EK QEOU ECOMEN, OIKIAN ACEIROPOIHTON AIWNION EN  
TOIS OURANOIS. 2 KAI GAR EN TOUTWi STENAZOMEN TO OIKHTHRION hHMWN TO  
EX OURANOU EPENDUSASQAI EPIPOQOUNTES, 3 EI GE KAI EKDUSAMENOI OU  
GUMNOI hEUREQHSOMEQA.
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M.Thrall (2Cor ICC) has thirteen pages on 2Cor. 5:1 which is  
irrelevant to my question but I would be willing to read any comments  
on the numerous problems in that verse. In 5:2 we have what looks like  
an absolute use of  STENAZOMEN followed by a participle clause with  
all the arguments in front of the participle EPIPOQOUNTES. This  
reminds me a little (with qualification) of Phil 1:3-4 where we have a  
finite verb clause EUCARISTW ... hUMWN followed by a participle clause  
with all the arguments stacked in front of the participle POIOUMENOS.
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Phil. 1:3 Εὐχαριστῶ τῷ θεῷ μου ἐπὶ πάσῃ  
τῇ μνείᾳ ὑμῶν  4 πάντοτε ἐν πάσῃ  
δεήσει μου ὑπὲρ πάντων ὑμῶν, μετὰ  
χαρᾶς τὴν δέησιν ποιούμενος,
.
PHIL. 1:3 EUCARISTW TWi QEWi MOU EPI PASHi THi MNEIAi hUMWN 4 PANTOTE  
EN PASHi DEHSEI MOU hUPER PANTWN hUMWN, META CARAS THN DEHSIN  
POIOUMENOS.
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I am not sure that the temporal notion "simultaneous" is really a  
feature of the semantics here or in 2Cor. 5:1-3. I would think that  
the time issue is more or less irrelevant. In both passages the action  
of the participle seems to be timeless, continuous, ongoing. Not  
simultaneous. The placement of participle at the end of the clause is  
interesting. Not sure what to make of it. Perhaps it is in focus, but  
i wouldn't risk much on that reading.
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Elizabeth Kline







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