[B-Greek] Translation [Re: Philippians 1:14
Jennifer & Bruce McKinnon
jennifer.bruce at telus.net
Tue Aug 4 17:45:17 EDT 2009
I posted this message a few days ago but it elicited no response. Any
assistance or comments for a translation plodder would be much appreciated.
Bruce McKinnon
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From: "Jennifer & Bruce McKinnon" <jennifer.bruce at telus.net>
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Subject: [B-Greek] Philippians 1:14
> I've been pondering PEPOIQOTAS and how verse 14 should be translated.
> Unless I'm badly mistaken (a real possibility), it is a second perfect
> participle of PEIQW and this second perfect is usually translated as an
> active verb such as "trust" [in], "have confidence" [in], etc. On this
> interpretation, the second perfect usage for this verb has not changed in
> the NT from its typical meaning in the LXX and in classical Greek. This
> is the meaning referred to in BDAG and in Moule's Cambridge Greek
> Testament commentary. Several other commentaries, however, are silent
> about (or ignore) the fact that the participle is a second perfect (e.g.,
> Sumney at p. 20) O'Brien writes at p. 95 of his commentary:
> "If the verb PEIQW is given its original meaning of 'convince',
> 'persuade', and the full force of the perfect tense is pressed, then it
> describes a conviction that began in the past and has continuing effects.
> It is thus distinguished from the main verb TOLMAN ('dare'; a present
> tense): already convinced they now continue to dare."
> On this point, O'Brien's footnote 47 refers to the commentary by Collange,
> to which I have no access. (On page 94, he does, however, translate the
> phrase as "And most of the believers have more confidence in the Lord
> through my imprisonment...".)
> In addition, several English translations treat this participle as if it
> has the normal force of a perfect (e.g., RSV). I've wondered whether I'm
> making a distinction without a difference but receive comfort from the
> traditional differentiation reflected in BDAG and by the implicit
> importance O'Brien gives to the question whether this second perfect
> participle of PEIQW should be given "the full force of the perfect tense".
> If one translates the participle as being equivalent to a present active
> participle, a possible translation might be: "Most of the brethren
> trusting in the Lord are bolder, because of my imprisonment, to speak the
> Word without fear" -- although I've seen no one taking TOIS DESMOIS with
> TOLMAN rather than with PEPOIQOTAS.
> Any thoughts or comments?
>
> Bruce McKinnon
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