[B-Greek] Philippians 1:3-4 - MNEIA - DEHSIS

Kimmo Huovila kimmo.huovila at kolumbus.fi
Wed Aug 19 09:32:12 EDT 2009


I have a somewhat different view on the passage in question.

On keskiviikko, 19. elokuuta 2009, Carl Conrad wrote:

<snip>
> > Phil. 1:3 Εὐχαριστῶ τῷ θεῷ μου ἐπὶ  
> > πάσῃ
> > τῇ μνείᾳ ὑμῶν  4 πάντοτε ἐν πάσῃ
> > δεήσει μου ὑπὲρ πάντων ὑμῶν, μετὰ
> > χαρᾶς τὴν δέησιν ποιούμενος,  5 ἐπὶ
> > τῇ κοινωνίᾳ ὑμῶν εἰς τὸ
> > εὐαγγέλιον ἀπὸ τῆς πρώτης ἡμέρας
> > ἄχρι τοῦ νῦν,
> > .
> > PHIL. 1:3 EUCARISTW TWi QEWi MOU EPI PASHi THi MNEIAi hUMWN 4 PANTOTE
> > EN PASHi DEHSEI MOU hUPER PANTWN hUMWN, META CARAS THN DEHSIN
> > POIOUMENOS, 5 EPI THi KOINWNIAi hUMWN EIS TO EUAGGELION APO THS PRWTHS
> > hHMERAS ACRI TOU NUN.
> 
> Steve Runge might give you a more up-to-date technical analysis of the  
> rhetoric of this, but here's my own take on the logical ordering of  
> the sequence:
> (1) I think that PANTOTE picks up the phrase EPI PASHi THi MNEIAi hUMWN;

I would suggest that PANTOTE picks up EUCARISTW and parse the passage as 
follows:
EUCARISTW
- TWi QEWi MOU
- EPI PASHi THi MNEIAi hUMWN
- PANTOTE EN PASHi DEHSEI MOU hUPER PANTWN hUMWN
(META CARAS THN DEHSIN POIOUMENOS)
- EPI THi KOINWNIAi hUMWN EIS TO EUAGGELION APO THS PRWTHS
hHMERAS ACRI TOU NUN.

> My paraphrase: "Every thought of you makes me thank God, each and  
> every prayer of mine joyfully embracing each and every one of you in  
> gratitude for our shared evangelistic venture, extending from day one  
> to the present moment."

My paraphrase: "I thank God for every memory I have of you always when I pray 
for you all (and that is with joy). I am especially grateful for your 
participation in the work of the gospel since the beginning.

> 
> In sum, in case I haven't adequately answered the real question posed,  
> I think that EN PASHi DEHSEI expands and explains the simple  
> statement, EUCARISTW ... EPI PASHi THi MNHMHi hUMWN: "My every thought  
> of you is a prayer of gratitude to God for you all."

I take EUCARISTW EPI in the sense of 'to thank for', giving the content of 
gratitude. Cf. 1 Cor 1:4

> Carl W. Conrad (hO GRAMMATIKOS hO TEQNHKWS)

GRAFEIS TEQNHKWS WN? OLIGOI TEQNHKOTES DUNANTAI. :-)

Kimmo Huovila


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