[B-Greek] Titus 1:12-13

Yancy W Smith yancywsmith at sbcglobal.net
Wed Dec 9 23:21:14 EST 2009


Epimenides only survives in Fragmentary quotes. But the line is also  
present in Callimachus.

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Yancy

On Dec 9, 2009, at 4:54 PM, Blue Meeksbay <bluemeeksbay at yahoo.com>  
wrote:

> That is a good point! I have never seen a text of Epimenides. Are we  
> really sure this was a saying of his? However, if it was, since Paul  
> was somehow familiar with it, would it not intimate Paul knew what  
> the saying was about? However, now that I think of it, perhaps this  
> saying was simply being repeated by those indicated in verse 10, and  
> thus was not even connected to the original saying of Epimenides,  
> which, if true, might justify your point. It seems such a thing is  
> done all the time, where a popular saying is so divorced from the  
> original source, that people do not even know the source, and so  
> would not know its context. (Although, I cannot think of an example  
> right now!)
>
> B.Harris
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>
> “The more counsel, the more understanding” – Hillel
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> ________________________________
> From: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
> To: Blue Meeksbay <bluemeeksbay at yahoo.com>
> Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 2:31:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Titus 1:12-13
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> Do you find any mention of Zeus in the passage?
>  george
> gfsomsel
>
>
> … search for truth, hear truth,
> learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
> defend the truth till death.
>
>
> - Jan Hus
> _________
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> ________________________________
> From: Blue Meeksbay <bluemeeksbay at yahoo.com>
> To: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
> Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 3:24:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Titus 1:12-13
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> Why would the one necessarily negate the other?
>
> B.Harris
>
>
> “The more counsel, the more understanding” – Hillel
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
> To: Blue Meeksbay <bluemeeksbay at yahoo.com>;  
> "yancywsmith at sbcglobal.net" <yancywsmith at sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 2:07:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Titus 1:12-13
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> Whether or not "Paul" believed Zeus was buried in Crete doesn't  
> enter into the picture.  He is concerned solely with the character  
> of the Cretan people and agrees that one of their own properly  
> depicted their character.
>  george
> gfsomsel
>
>
> … search for truth, hear truth,
> learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
> defend the truth till death.
>
>
> - Jan Hus
> _________
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bl



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