[B-Greek] Determining questions in the Greek language without an interrogative particle
George F Somsel
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Thu Dec 10 14:22:24 EST 2009
No, the context does not support either conclusion. It supports only one conclusion: This is a question.
george
gfsomsel
… search for truth, hear truth,
learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
defend the truth till death.
- Jan Hus
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From: Blue Meeksbay <bluemeeksbay at yahoo.com>
To: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thu, December 10, 2009 11:43:26 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Determining questions in the Greek language without an interrogative particle
I do not want to go into a theological reasoning’s, so let me just state that some consider these verses of John to be important verses regarding the processional nature of Christ. In verse 28 Jesus gives them added information about his nature. In verse 30 they state they believe him. He states a fact of their belief in verse 31, which he also acknowledges in his prayer to the Father in Jn. 17:8. OTI RHMATA A DEDWKAS MOI DEDWKA AUTOIS KAI AUTOI ELABON KAI EGNWSAN ALHQWS OTI PARA SOU EXHLQON KAI EPISTEUSAN OTI SU ME APESTEILAS.
Consequently, the emphasis on verse 32, perhaps, is more on the fact that he is assuring them that when they are scattered, he would not be alone, because of the fact that he had just revealed to them in verse 28. (Tyndale also saw verse 31 as a statement).
I admit the fact of this being a question or statement is not clear cut, thus my question, but it seems the context could support either conclusion.
B.Harris
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From: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
To: Blue Meeksbay <bluemeeksbay at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thu, December 10, 2009 9:44:15 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Determining questions in the Greek language without an interrogative particle
Really? With it specifically stating that APEKRIQH?
george
gfsomsel
… search for truth, hear truth,
learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
defend the truth till death.
- Jan Hus
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From: Blue Meeksbay <bluemeeksbay at yahoo.com>
To: Blue Meeksbay <bluemeeksbay at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thu, December 10, 2009 10:36:30 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Determining questions in the Greek language without an interrogative particle
How about John 16:31 – APEKRIQH AUTOIS IHSOUS ARTI PISTEUETE. Most translate ARTI PISTEUETE as a question, but it could also be a statement, “Now you believe.”
Sincerely,
B.Harris
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From: Blue Meeksbay <bluemeeksbay at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thu, December 10, 2009 8:40:02 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Determining questions in the Greek language without an interrogative particle
Sorry, poor example, I was reading a Byzantine text. I should have checked variants first! I will get another example.
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From: Blue Meeksbay <bluemeeksbay at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thu, December 10, 2009 8:14:33 AM
Subject: [B-Greek] Determining questions in the Greek language without an interrogative particle
When an interrogative particle is absent how does one tell if a phrase should be a question or a statement? Rom. 14:22 says SU PISTIN ECEIS KATA SAUTON ECE ENWPION TOU QEOU MARKARIOS O MH KRINWN EAUTON EN W DOKIMAZEI. Should SU PISTIN ECEIS be considered a question or a statement?
The AV translates it as – Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.
The ASV translates it as – The faith which thou hast, have thou to thyself before God. Happy is he that judgeth not himself in that which he approveth.
Is not the context the only way we can determine the answer?
B. Harris
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