[B-Greek] 2COR. 12:1 OPTASIAS KAI APOKALUYEIS KURIOU

George F Somsel gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 23 16:14:39 EST 2009


I think Thrall is basically correct that ὀπτασίας καὶ ἀποκαλύψεις OPTASIAS KAI APOKALUYEIS is a phrase which comes from Paul's rivals (He is forced into it).  I don't think it is necessary to insist that a vision is necessarily required.  The referent of κυρίου KURIOU would seem to necessarily reference Jesus Christ since this is Paul's customary manner of speaking regarding Christ.  It seems that only when he is citing a reference from the OT does he use it otherwise (e.g. Rom 10.13 πᾶς γὰρ ὃς ἂν ἐπικαλέσηται τὸ ὂνομα κυρίου σωθήσεταιPAS GAR hOS AN EPIKALESHTAI TO ONOMA KURIOU SWQHSETAI, a quotation from Joel 3.5).
 george
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From: Elizabeth Kline <kline_dekooning at earthlink.net>
To: greek B-Greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wed, December 23, 2009 1:19:11 PM
Subject: [B-Greek] 2COR. 12:1 OPTASIAS KAI APOKALUYEIS KURIOU

There are a number of exegetical decisions required by the phrase  
OPTASIAS KAI APOKALUYEIS KURIOU in 2COR. 12:1. Is Paul referring to a  
theophany? Who is the referent of  KURIOU? What about the genitive  
case? Is KURIOU the content of the revelation and if so in what sense?  
Is KURIOU the source of the revelation and if so in what sense?
.
I have just read M.E.Thrall (2cor ICC 2000, v2. pp. 774-775) and  
M.J.Harris (2Cor NIGTC 2005, pp. 831-832) who present the alterantives  
and the other Pauline texts which use similar language which I have  
included below. I am wondering if any of the scholars on this forum  
who are particularly interested in Pauline studies might have some  
insights on how to resolve these questions. You don't have to be an  
SBL member to respond to this :-)
.

2Cor. 12:1 Καυχᾶσθαι δεῖ, οὐ συμφέρον  
μέν, ἐλεύσομαι δὲ εἰς ὀπτασίας καὶ  
ἀποκαλύψεις κυρίου.
2COR. 12:1 KAUCASQAI DEI, OU SUMFERON MEN, ELEUSOMAI DE EIS OPTASIAS  
KAI APOKALUYEIS KURIOU.
.
Rom. 2:5 κατὰ δὲ τὴν σκληρότητά σου καὶ  
ἀμετανόητον καρδίαν θησαυρίζεις  
σεαυτῷ ὀργὴν ἐν ἡμέρᾳ ὀργῆς καὶ  
ἀποκαλύψεως δικαιοκρισίας τοῦ θεοῦ
ROM. 2:5 KATA DE THN SKLHROTHTA SOU KAI AMETANOHTON KARDIAN  
QHSAURIZEIS SEAUTWi ORGHN EN hHMERAi ORGHS KAI APOKALUYEWS  
DIKAIOKRISIAS TOU QEOU
.
Rom. 8:19 ἡ γὰρ ἀποκαραδοκία τῆς  
κτίσεως τὴν ἀποκάλυψιν τῶν υἱῶν  
τοῦ θεοῦ ἀπεκδέχεται.
ROM. 8:19 hH GAR APOKARADOKIA THS KTISEWS THN APOKALUYIN TWN hUIWN TOU  
QEOU APEKDECETAI.
.
1Cor. 1:7 ὥστε ὑμᾶς μὴ ὑστερεῖσθαι ἐν  
μηδενὶ χαρίσματι ἀπεκδεχομένους  
τὴν ἀποκάλυψιν τοῦ κυρίου ἡμῶν  
Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ·
1COR. 1:7 hWSTE hUMAS MH hUSTEREISQAI EN MHDENI CARISMATI  
APEKDECOMENOUS THN APOKALUYIN TOU KURIOU hHMWN IHSOU CRISTOU·
.
Gal. 1:12 οὐδὲ γὰρ ἐγὼ παρὰ ἀνθρώπου  
παρέλαβον αὐτὸ οὔτε ἐδιδάχθην  
ἀλλὰ δι᾿ ἀποκαλύψεως Ἰησοῦ  
Χριστοῦ.
GAL. 1:12 OUDE GAR EGW PARA ANQRWPOU PARELABON AUTO OUTE EDIDACQHN  
ALLA DI᾿ APOKALUYEWS IHSOU CRISTOU.
.

Elizabeth Kline




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