[B-Greek] Ephesians 5:33 (to George and Timothy)
Michael Aubrey
mga318 at yahoo.com
Sun Jan 11 19:30:54 EST 2009
George and Timothy:
The best recent dealing with this question, is a 2006 dissertation:
A Relevance Theoretic approach to the particle 'hina' in Koine Greek by Margaret Gavin Sim
supervised by Larry W Hurtado & Ronnie Cann.
Here discussion specifically about an "imperatival iνα" is in section 9.3.1.2 ‘Imperatival’ iνα on page 267, though she references Ephesians 5.33 a number of times throughout her dissertation. The entire work is downloadable here (see the PDF link at the bottom):
http://www.era.lib.ed.ac.uk/handle/1842/1395
Mike Aubrey
http://evepheso.wordpress.com
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hEKASTOS THN GYNAIKA hOUTWS AGAPATW hWs hEAUTOV hH DE GYNE hINA FOBHTAI TOV ANDRA
I've recently encountered a proposal to take the hINA clause in this verse as subordinate to the main verb AGAPATW, yielding the following sense:
"Let each [man] so love his wife as himself in order that the woman might respect her husband" or "Let each [man] so love his wife as himself with the result that the woman respects her husband."
This rendering seems quite consonant with the overall thrust of the passage, and I believe rolling hH GYNH into the hINA clause is feasible in light of 2 Corinthians 2:4. But this take on the verse appears impossible to me in light of the coordinating conjunction DE. I've never been entirely comfortable with the notion that the subjunctive FOBHTAI is functionally imperative, but I don't see this proposal as a viable alternative.
Thoughts, fellow Greek aficionados?
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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:35:55 -0800 (PST)
From: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Ephesians 5:33
To: timothy mcmahon <targum at msn.com>, b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
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I think you encounter a problem here in that DE interrupts the two clauses.? I?seems more likely that what we have is an example of BDAG's entry regarding its usage with the subjunctive as a means of expressing a command.
????[hINA] w. subjunctive as a periphrasis for the impv.(B-D-F?387, 3; Mlt.178; 210f; 248; Rob.994; Mlt-Turner94f; FSlotty, D. Gebr. des Konj. u. Opt. in d. griech. Dialekten I 1915, 35; CCadoux, The Impv. Use of ???[hINA] in the NT: JTS42, ?41, 165?73; in reply HMeecham, JTS43, ?42, 179f, also ET52, ?40/41, 437; AGeorge, JTS45, ?44, 56?60. Goodsp., Probs.57f.?Soph., Oed. Col. 155; Epict. 4, 1, 41, Enchir. 17; PTebt408, 17 [3 a.d.]; BGU1079, 20; PFay112, 12; POxy299, 5 ??? ?????[hIN' EIDHiS] ?know?; PGM4, 2135; Tob 8:12BA; 2 Macc 1:9. ??? ???? ?????? ????? ??? ???????? ??? ????[hINA PRIN TOUTWN IDHTE THN APWLEIAN TWN hUIWN] ?before these events, you shall behold the destruction of your sons? En14:6. ?????, ??? ??????? ?? ??? ?????? ???[KURIE hINA GINWSKHi TO SON KRATOS hOTI] ?Lord, may you in your majesty know, that ?? TestAbrA
4 p. 80, 35f [Stone pp.8 and 10]). ??? ?????? ??? ?????? ????[hINA EPIQHiS TAS XEIRAS AUTHi] please lay your hands on herMk 5:23.? ?? ???? ??? ??????? ?. ?????[hH DE GUNH hINA FOBHTAI T. ANDRA] the wife is to respect her husbandEph 5:33.Cp. Mt 20:33; Mk 10:51; 1 Cor 7:29; 16:16; 2 Cor 8:7; Gal 2:10.??? ????????????[hINA ANAPAHSONTAI] let them restRv 14:13.W. ???? [QELW]: ???? ??? ???[QELW hINA DWiS] Mk 6:25(=???[=DOS] Mt 14:8.).?On Mk 2:10s. 1f above.
Arndt, W., Danker, F. W., & Bauer, W. (2000). A Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament and other early Christian literature. (3rd ed.) (476). Chicago: University of Chicago Press.
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Note that one of the citations here is precisely your passage.
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(3) Questions with ??[OU] and the fut.can also have an impera.sense (class.often): A 13:10?? ????? ??????????; [OU PAUSHi DIASTREFWN?} (perhaps more of a reproach than a command); cf.Viteau37. ???[hINA] = impera.perhaps also in 1 T 1:3; but in Mk 5:23????????? ? ??? ? ??????[PAREKALEI ? hINA ? EPIQHiS] should probably be joined in thought (mixture [Page 196] of ??? ?????[hINA EPIQHi] and direct ?????? [EPIQES]). ??? [hINA]-clause as impera.: C. F. Cadoux, JTS42 (1941) 165?73; H. G. Meecham, JTS43 (1942) 179f.(180: ?certain in a few NTpassages and probable in others?); A. R. George, JTS45 (1944) 55?60. Pap. 41/2 ad(Aegyptus33 [1953] 317) ?? ??? ?????? ?? ?????? ??? ??[MH hINA SKULHiS ME ELQEIN EPI SE] ?do not force me?. T. Kal?n, Selbst?ndige Finals?tze ? (Skrifter K. Hum. Vet.-samf. i Uppsala34, 2 [1914]), explains the independent
??? [hINA]-clause on the basis of the imperatival inf.(pp.22f.); NTexx.pp.53?65, LXX65?8. Pap. Mlt.178f.[281]; Horn120ff.; Mayserii1, 231f.(???[hINA]), 230f.(???? [hOPWS]). LXXe.g.2 Macc 1:9??? ??? ??? ????? ??? ?????? ??? ???????????[KAI NUN hINA AGHTE TAS hHMERAS THS SKHOPHGIAS]. ?Further (Epict.etc.) in Raderm.2170; Windisch, ZNW26 (1927) 205 n.5; Pernot, ?tudes63, 97ff., 123, 148f.; Ghedini, Vang. ap.477 and Aegyptus15 (1935) 236; Ljungvik38f.M. Ant.11.3 ?? ?? ??????? ????? ??? ??? ?????? ??????? ???????, 4 ????? ??? ??? ????????? ??????, ??? ??????? ?????[11.3 TO DE hETOIMON TOUTO hINA APO IDIKHS KRISEW ERXHTAI, 4 TOUTO hINA AEI PROXEIRON APANTAi, KAI MHDAMOU PAUOU]. ?In MGr??with the subj.serves as the impera.of the 2nd and 3rd person.?Rob.941?50.
?george
gfsomsel
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