[B-Greek] KAI ... ALLA
Carl Conrad
cwconrad2 at mac.com
Thu Jan 29 19:20:19 EST 2009
On Jan 29, 2009, at 6:31 PM, Steve Runge wrote:
> Jeffrey,
>
> I would say that the collocation KAI X, ALLA Y is not unusual. ALLA
> correlates the X element that precedes it with the Y element that
> follows. I do not think that the introduction of the "X ALLA Y" pair
> by
> KAI significantly impacts the contrast. Constrast is a quality that is
> either inherently there in the context or not. Use of a connective
> like
> ALLA only increases the contrast that was already present.
>
> The meaningful factor that I have found with ALLA concerns whether
> the X
> element preceding ALLA is negated or not. Where it is negated, the Y
> element typically replaces some aspect of X. Where the X is a positive
> statement, the Y element more often corrects some aspect of the X
> element. Rick Brannan wrote a great paper on ALLA for ETS in November,
> and it is posted at http://preview.tinyurl.com/d6vvb8. He has a rather
> thorough lit review, and looks at every non-negative instance of
> ALLA in
> the GNT.
It really is helpful (and we urge people posting about a text to do
it) to
have the text in front of us:
13 καὶ μὴ εἰσενέγκῃς ἡμᾶς εἰς
πειρασμόν,
ἀλλὰ ῥῦσαι ἡμᾶς ἀπὸ τοῦ πονηροῦ.
[KAI MH EISENEGKHiS hHMAS EIS PEIRASMON,
ALLA hRUSAI hHMAS APO TOU PONHROU.
Note that this is not simply a matter of one clause introduced by KAI
and then next followed by ALLA; rather it's an imperative clause
introduced by KAI MH followed by an imperative clause introduced by
ALLA. That is to say, it's not "And ... but ... "; it's "And don't do
X but (rather) do Y." I really don't even think that the KAI is the
important item here. I haven't done a careful search, but here's an
instance:
1Tim. 5:1 Πρεσβυτέρῳ μὴ ἐπιπλήξῃς
ἀλλὰ παρακάλει ὡς πατέρα, νεωτέρους
ὡς ἀδελφούς, [PRESBUTERWi MH EPIPLHXHiS ALLA PARAKALEI hWS
PATERA, NEWTEROUS hWS ADELFOUS]
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey B.
> Gibson
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 1:58 PM
> To: Biblical Greek
> Subject: [B-Greek] KAI ... ALLA
>
> Is the construction in which the last two petitions of Matthean
> version
> of the Lord's Prayer -- i.e., KAI ... ALLA, a common one in Biblical
> Greek?
>
> More importantly, what is the semantic range of ALLA when it is
> preceded, as it is in Mt. 6:13 by KAI. Must it be contrastive?
>
> Yours,
>
> Jeffrey
>
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Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
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