[B-Greek] 2 Tim 2.15 - Al Pietersma, Buth, etc.

Albert Pietersma albert.pietersma at sympatico.ca
Tue Jul 7 20:55:37 EDT 2009


Given that Hebrew YSR piel is glossed by ORQOTOMEW exclusively in Prov  
3:6 and 11:5, it would seems that the translator of Proverbs wanted  
something different from other Greek glosses used in the LXX (EUQUS,  
EUQU POIEW, KATEUQUNW, KATORQOW). For its specific sense one should  
look not at the meaning of Hebrew YSR, it seems to me, but rather at  
the context of the Greek. In 3:6 NETS uses "to make straight," whereas  
in 11:5 it uses "to cut out."  As I see it, the latter gloss is more  
apt than the former. In both passages, the image would seem to be that  
of "road building" (de novo) rather than of "road straitening."
Al
On Jul 7, 2009, at 4:22 PM, George F Somsel wrote:

> Prov 3.6 LXX
> 6 ἐν πάσαις ὁδοῖς σου γνώριζε αὐτήν,  
> ἵνα ὀρθοτομῇ τὰς ὁδούς σου,[ ὁ δὲ  
> πούς σου οὐ μὴ προσκόπτῃ. ]
> 6 EN PASAIS hODOIS SOU GNWRIZE AUTHN, hINA ORQOTOMHi TAS hODOUS SOU,  
> [hO DE POUS SOU MH PROSKOPTHi.]
>
> Prov 11.5 LXX
> 5 δικαιοσύνη ἀμώμους ὀρθοτομεῖ  
> ὁδούς, ἀσέβεια δὲ περιπίπτει  
> ἀδικίᾳ.
> 5 DIKAIOSUNH AMWMOUS ORQOTOMEI hODOUS, ASEBEIA PERIPIPTEI ADIKIAi.
>
> In both cases the Hebrew word is ישׁר Y$R which is glossed "be  
> straight, smooth, right."  When used with בְּעֵינֵי B.: 
> ("YN"Y "in the eyes of" and a person [or God] it signifies "to  
> please."
>
>
> george
> gfsomsel
>
>
> … search for truth, hear truth,
> learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
> defend the truth till death.
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>
> - Jan Hus
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> From: Eddie Mishoe <edmishoe at yahoo.com>
> To: B Greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 1:00:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] 2 Tim 2.15 - Al Pietersma, Buth, etc.
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> I wonder if a Hebrew scholar can contribute to the meaning of this  
> hapax legomenon (in the NT) by explaining the Hebrew word that the  
> LXX translates in Prov 3.6 or 11.5. What is the Hebrew word behind  
> orthotomew and what is its meaning?
>
> Eddie Mishoe
> Pastor
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