[B-Greek] Ephesians 2:8 - Anaphoric Use of the Article

rhutchin at aol.com rhutchin at aol.com
Tue Jul 21 15:41:15 EDT 2009


 
 It's mind boggling to me.  I am amazed that this practice could get started and even more amazed that someone then figured out what was being done.  The source of the comment was Hendricksen's commentary on Ephesians.  It was a cryptic (at least, to me) footnote on Eph 2:8.

 

 You take it back to v 7.  Could it refer back to v 5?  Could it indicate that the writer is now going back to something he had said earlier that he now wants to expand upon?

 

 The term seems to be completely ignored in the translation of the verse.  However, it provides critical information that would seem to be necessary for the reader of a translation to understand what is happening.  Is there some translation of the term, THi, that could be used in some manner to show what is happening or is it simply impossible to translate?



Also, the examples used to illustrate this situation are nothing like what we find here.  The examples use the exact language repeatedly so that it is clear what is being said.  This verse lacks that characteristic.  I find it confusing.

 
  
 

 Roger Hutchinson

 
  


 
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   > Ephesians 2:8 

   > 

   > THi GAR CARITI ESTE SESWiSMENOI DIA PISTEWS... 

   > 

   > I read that this was the anaphoric use of the article THi. 

   > 

   > What does anaphoric use of the article mean in this case? 

   > 

   > How does it affect the reading of the passage? 

   > 

   > Roger Hutchinson 

  

   http://grammar.about.com/od/ab/g/anaphora.htm 

  

   A rhetorical term for the repetition of the same word or phrase at the start   of successive clauses. For the grammatical term, see anaphora (grammar).   Adjective: anaphoric.... 

  

   [and here is the grammatical definition] 

  

   A grammatical term for the use of a pronoun or other linguistic unit to   refer back to another word or phrase. 

  

   Look at verse 7, where we have τῆς χάριτος, THS CARITOS, actually in the   middle of the previous sentence, and then vs. 8 begins τῆ=2
0χάριτι, THi   CARITI. 

  

   It's always nice to have the source and context of where you derived the   comment, to make sure that the commentator is using terminology in the   standard sense.  In this case, if anything, the repetition of the article   simply shows that the the CARIS in both cases has the same referent, and it   to be understood substantively.  The kindness of his grace and the the grace   by which you are saved are the same thing. 

  

   N.E. Barry Hofstetter 

   Adjunct Faculty, Classics @ Montclair 

   http://www.montclair.edu/ 

   Classics Instructor, The American Academy 

   http://www.theamericanacademy.net/ 

  

   And me: http://my.opera.com/barryhofstetter/blog  

     
     




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