[B-Greek] Gal 4.4

Mitch Larramore mitchlarramore at yahoo.com
Wed Jul 22 08:36:36 EDT 2009


Barry:

I don't know if there is anything in the Greek here; that's why I asked!! The translation seems so painfully obvious that I couldn't help but think that perhaps there are alternate meanings to this phrase that might help me understand the verse. That is what b-Greek helps me think through. 

As a great example, I ran across the other day in the archives the famous passage of women being the "weaker vessel." The poster (Mark Wilson) suggests that 'weaker' be translated 'more vulnerable.' More vulnerable, by the way, was understood in a positive sense, a vulnerability that accentuates a woman's femininity. That changed the whole way I looked at that passage. (http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/b-greek/2003-May/025342.html) 

I know I had read 50+ books/articles on that one phrase and had yet to find anything that made sense to me, until that post. So, that was the driving force behind my asking. If you don't see anything in the Greek, that's fine. But perhaps a Mark Wilson is out there who has done some serious digging (original research, not checking more lexica) on that phrase. I don't feel like I'm wasting anyone's time and many times my questions are, in the end, sophomoric and, as it turns out, not very helpful, but I just have yet to figure out how to know which question is dumb before I ask it :o )

Mitch Larramore
Augusta, GA


--- On Tue, 7/21/09, Barry <nebarry at verizon.net> wrote:

> From: Barry <nebarry at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Gal 4.4
> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 10:21 PM
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Mitch Larramore" <mitchlarramore at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:10 PM
> To: "B- Greek" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: [B-Greek] Gal 4.4
> 
> >
> > ...EXAPESTEILEN O QEOS TON UION AUTOU, GENOMENON EK
> GUNAIKOS...
> >
> > Is there an alternative to GENOMENON EK GUNAIKOS? To
> say someone came from 
> > a woman/mother seems insulting to mention, assuming
> the reading audience 
> > is north of imbeciles. How could someone bring
> themselves to include this 
> > in a serious piece of communication?<<
> 
> Is there a question about the Greek somewhere here?  I
> can think of more 
> than one theological and contextual reason why Paul might
> feel the need 
> state this, but that gets into areas beyond the scope of
> this list, I should 
> think.  Oh, and according to NA, there are no variants
> worthy of mention.
> 
> N.E. Barry Hofstetter
> Adjunct Faculty, Classics @ Montclair
> http://www.montclair.edu/
> Classics Instructor, The American Academy
> http://www.theamericanacademy.net/
> 
> And me: http://my.opera.com/barryhofstetter/blog
> 
> 
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