[B-Greek] ASQENESTERWi SKEUEI in 1 Peter 3:7
Sarah Madden
sarah.r.madden at gmail.com
Fri Jul 24 04:02:04 EDT 2009
The best explanation My pastor explained this word by comparing a woman to
an elegant china cup that can be broken if dropped. The china cup was
created with intense fire and is just as useful a vessel as a pottery or tin
cup, but it cannot be mistreated or it breaks and loses all functionality.
Also, speaking from a woman's point of view, sometimes we just want someone
to listen to us -- not to solve the problem at that point. The solution can
come later. Just a thought to all you guys out there ...
Sarah Madden
Seminary student & TA
CBS, Lanham, Md.
sarah.r.madden at gmail.com
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:45 PM, <fullerming at gmail.com> wrote:
> Also, vulnerability can be positive as in delicate and frail like a flower
> or a new born baby. I will look for such inferences when I get home tonight
> for ASQENESTERWi SKEUEI, but it seems reasonable.
> --Fuller Ming, Jr.
> Seminary Student,
> CBS, Lanham Md.
> (Currently no money or time so not taking classes)
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Holmyard <hholmyard3 at earthlink.net>
>
> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:46:49
> To: B-Greek<b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] ASQENESTERWi SKEUEI in 1 Peter 3:7 (was "Re: Gal
> 4.4"
>
>
> Carl,
> > The text in question is 1 Peter 3:7:
> > Οἱ ἄνδρες ὁμοίως, συνοικοῦντες κατὰ
> > γνῶσιν ὡς ἀσθενεστέρῳ σκεύει τῷ
> > γυναικείῳ, ἀπονέμοντες τιμὴν ὡς
> > καὶ συγκληρονόμοις χάριτος ζωῆς εἰς
> > τὸ μὴ ἐγκόπτεσθαι τὰς προσευχὰς
> > ὑμῶν.
> > [hOI ANDRES hOMOIWS, SUNOIKOUNTES KATA GNWSIN hWS ASQENESTERWi SKEUEI
> > TWi GUNAIKEIWi, APONEMONTES TIMHN hWS SUGKLHRONOMOIS ZWHS EIS TO MH
> > EGKOPTESQAI TAS PROSEUCAS hUMWN.]
> >
> > I would understand hWS ASQENESTERWi SKEUEI TWi GUNAIKEIWi as
> > construing with hOMOIWS, SUNOIKOUNTES, and APONEMONTES TIMHN as
> > construing with hWS SUGKLHRONOMOIS ZWHS. On that understanding honor
> > is not given because of the "greater infirmity/weakness" but because
> > wives are "co-heirs of life."
> >
> > Mark said that he had done considerable research into the usage of the
> > adjective ASQENHS at the Perseus site and had been particularly
> > impressed by the association of "vulnerability" with the adjective.
> > That makes perfectly good sense, but it is a leap, it seems to me, to
> > attribute a positive value to vulnerability. The vulnerable need
> > protection, of course, but how is vulnerability something to be valued
> > in and of itself? Is that really what this text is saying?
> >
>
> HH: My pastor preached on this text on Sunday, noting that one of the
> worst things men can say to a woman in tears over something is: "What is
> wrong with you," or worse, "What is your problem?" It involves a failure
> to recognize that women were created differently than men, and tears may
> be the appropriate response from a woman in that situation. (He added
> than 90% of the time "you," the husband, is the problem in such cases).
> So we live knowledgeably with our wives and show them honor by
> recognizing their different make-up. The pastor suggested that the fact
> that the man asks the woman for marriage shows her basically weaker
> position. The phrase "fellow heir of the grace of life" suggests
> equality, but there is this God-ordained difference, this relative
> weakness, that must be taken into account. If it is handled as a
> legitimate difference, and not as a defect, we act knowledgeably and
> honorably towards her.
>
> Yours,
> Harold Holmyard
>
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