[B-Greek] Aramaic or Hebrew in NET Bible

schmuel schmuel at nyc.rr.com
Fri Jul 31 09:06:19 EDT 2009


Hi Folks,

  Thanks, Randall. for the summary and additional information.

   First here are some notes from Ken Penner.  They are still on the 
Net, very nicely.

Ken Penner -
What language did Paul speak in Acts 21-22?
Ancient names for Hebrew and Aramaic.?
http://ocp.acadiau.ca/kpenner/papers/hebrais/

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Some additional notes, there are about five different b-greek threads 
going back to the 1990s.

RE: [biblical-studies] Aramaic was called "Hebrew"? - 2003 forum 
discussion - Ken Penner
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biblical-studies/message/3376

[B-Greek] PASXA and SIKERA --transliteration from Hebrew - Ken Penner
http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/b-greek/2007-April/042555.html

Hebraisti == Hebrew - What language did Paul speak in Acts 21:22 ? - 
my summary notes of the articles above
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Messianic_Apologetic/message/7527

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   Second we, could mention the book by Alan Millard about literacy, 
although he does not address this
translational issue so cogently he does emphasize Hebrew as a common 
language of the day.

Reading and Writing In the Time of Jesus. (Sheffield Academic Press, 2000)
http://www.bibleinterp.com/articles/Millard_Jesus.shtml
http://books.google.com/books?id=TCrfgC6QWp0C

   And some of the historical scholarship on Hebraisti is mentioned 
in the summary by Douglas Hamp

Discovering the Language of Jesus Hebrew or Aramaic?
http://www.ccsom.org/languageofjesus/

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Randall
>However, the view that 'Hebrew' EBRAISTI means 'Aramaic' is older 
>than the 19th century and goes back to the reformation era when
>contact with Eastern Syriac churches brought the 'Aramaic' view.

I would be interested in any specific references on this.  Afaik, 
there were no actual Reformation Bibles that translated
the word Hebraisti as Aramaic (or anything other than Hebrew) but it 
was a type of very invigorating scholarship.

Randall
>The 'Aramaic' view is formed on four and more misconcalculations (snip)

Thanks for this fine summary !

Randall
>So, contra BDAG, EBRAISTI means, surprise, EBRAISTI, i.e. Hebrew, 
>and SYRISTI means, Aramaic, like at Daniel 2.4.
>And NET would need updating if still propogating incorrect views.

Agreed.

En passant, the Bar Kochba letters might be worthwhile to mention, 
and the poetry at Qumran (this is emphasized by Dr. Norman Golb). 
These were discoveries that helped current the scholarship misemphasis.

Acts 21:40 (KJB)
And when he had given him licence, Paul stood on the stairs,
and beckoned with the hand unto the people.
And when there was made a great silence,
he spake unto them in the Hebrew tongue, saying,

Shalom,
Steven Avery  




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