[B-Greek] 2COR. 2:3 SCW AF᾿ hWN EDEI ME CAIREIN
Mark Lightman
lightmanmark at yahoo.com
Thu Jun 25 18:44:49 EDT 2009
Elizabeth,
With the omission of the antecedent of the relative
being so routine, you are not denying that it is elliptical
for something, are you? If it's not elliptical for one of the
possibilities Alford/Harris mention, what is it
elliptical for?
Mark L.
--- On Thu, 6/25/09, Elizabeth Kline <kline_dekooning at earthlink.net> wrote:
From: Elizabeth Kline <kline_dekooning at earthlink.net>
Subject: [B-Greek] 2COR. 2:3 SCW AF᾿ hWN EDEI ME CAIREIN
To: "greek B-Greek" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 3:27 PM
2Cor. 2:1 Ἔκρινα γὰρ ἐμαυτῷ τοῦτο τὸ μὴ
πάλιν ἐν λύπῃ πρὸς ὑμᾶς ἐλθεῖν. 2
εἰ γὰρ ἐγὼ λυπῶ ὑμᾶς, καὶ τίς ὁ
εὐφραίνων με εἰ μὴ ὁ λυπούμενος ἐξ
ἐμοῦ; 3 καὶ ἔγραψα τοῦτο αὐτό, ἵνα
μὴ ἐλθὼν λύπην σχῶ ἀφ᾿ ὧν ἔδει με
χαίρειν, πεποιθὼς ἐπὶ πάντας ὑμᾶς
ὅτι ἡ ἐμὴ χαρὰ πάντων ὑμῶν ἐστιν.
2COR. 2:1 EKRINA GAR EMAUTWi TOUTO TO MH PALIN EN LUPHi PROS hUMAS
ELQEIN. 2 EI GAR EGW LUPW hUMAS, KAI TIS hO EUFRAINWN ME EI MH hO
LUPOUMENOS EX EMOU; 3 KAI EGRAYA TOUTO AUTO, hINA MH ELQWN LUPHN SCW
AF᾿ hWN EDEI ME CAIREIN, PEPOIQWS EPI PANTAS hUMAS hOTI hH EMH CARA
PANTWN hUMWN ESTIN.
Alford and M.Harris say that AF᾿ hWN is elliptical for something like
APO TOUTWV, AF' hWN Alford, or APO EKEINWN AF' hWN or APO EKEINWN AF'
hOIS Harris. I am a little skeptical about this. The expanded
expressions do not occur in the GNT. I tried searching the TLG using
several patterns to allow from changes in number and particles between
the substrings. The only thing I found was OUK APO TOUTWN DE AF' hWN in
Sextus Empiricus Phil., Adversus mathematicos (0544: 002)
“Sexti Empirici opera, vols. 2 & 3 (2nd edn.)”, Ed. Mutschmann, H.,
Mau, J.
Leipzig: Teubner, 2:1914; 3:1961.
Book 1, section 47, line 4
ματικὴ ἀπὸ τῆς τῶν γραμμάτων
εἰδήσεως κατ' ἀρχὰς
ὀνομασθεῖσα διετάθη καὶ ἐπὶ τὴν ἐν
τοῖς ποικιλωτέροις
αὐτῶν καὶ τεχνικωτέροις θεωρήμασι
γνῶσιν. τάχα δέ, ὥς
φασιν οἱ περὶ τὸν Ἀσκληπιάδην,
καὶ αὐτὴ ἀπὸ μὲν γραμμάτων
ὠνόμασται, οὐκ ἀπὸ τού-
των δὲ ἀφ' ὧν καὶ ἡ γραμματιστική,
ἀλλ' ἐκείνη μέν, ὡς
ἔφην, ἀπὸ τῶν στοιχείων, αὕτη δὲ
ἀπὸ τῶν συγγραμ-
μάτων περὶ οἷς πονεῖται. γράμματα
γὰρ καὶ ταῦτα προς-
ηγορεύετο, καθὰ καὶ δημόσια καλοῦμεν
γράμματα, καὶ
πολλῶν τινὰ γραμμάτων ἔμπειρον
ὑπάρχειν φαμέν, τουτ-
έστιν οὐ τῶν στοιχείων ἀλλὰ τῶν
συγγραμμάτων. καὶ
MATIKH APO THS TWN GRAMMATWN EIDHSEWS KAT' ARCAS ONOMASQEISA DIETAQH
KAI EPI THN EN TOIS POIKILWTEROIS AUTWN KAI TECNIKWTEROIS QEWRHMASI
GNWSIN. TACA DE, hWS FASIN hOI PERI TON ASKLHPIADHN, KAI AUTH APO MEN
GRAMMATWN WNOMASTAI, OUK APO TOUTWN DE AF' hWN KAI hH GRAMMATISTIKH,
ALL' EKEINH MEN, hWS EFHN, APO TWN STOICEIWN, hAUTH DE APO TWN
SUGGRAM- MATWN PERI hOIS PONEITAI. GRAMMATA GAR KAI TAUTA PROS-
HGOREUETO, KAQA KAI DHMOSIA KALOUMEN GRAMMATA, KAI POLLWN TINA
GRAMMATWN EMPEIRON hUPARCEIN FAMEN, TOUT- ESTIN OU TWN STOICEIWN ALLA
TWN SUGGRAMMATWN. KAI
I am wondering why we should consider AF᾿ hWN elliptical for an
expression which doesn't seem to be used, or at least isn't common.
Perhaps I am overlooking something quite obvious.
Elizabeth Kline
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