[B-Greek] 2COR. 2:3 SCW AF᾿ hWN EDEI ME CAIREIN

Mark Lightman lightmanmark at yahoo.com
Thu Jun 25 18:44:49 EDT 2009


Elizabeth,
 
With the omission of the antecedent of the relative
being so routine, you are not denying that it is elliptical
for something, are you?  If it's not elliptical for one of the
possibilities Alford/Harris mention, what is it
elliptical for?
 
Mark L.


--- On Thu, 6/25/09, Elizabeth Kline <kline_dekooning at earthlink.net> wrote:


From: Elizabeth Kline <kline_dekooning at earthlink.net>
Subject: [B-Greek] 2COR. 2:3 SCW AF᾿ hWN EDEI ME CAIREIN
To: "greek B-Greek" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 3:27 PM


2Cor. 2:1 Ἔκρινα γὰρ ἐμαυτῷ τοῦτο τὸ μὴ  
πάλιν ἐν λύπῃ πρὸς ὑμᾶς ἐλθεῖν.  2  
εἰ γὰρ ἐγὼ λυπῶ ὑμᾶς, καὶ τίς ὁ  
εὐφραίνων με εἰ μὴ ὁ λυπούμενος ἐξ  
ἐμοῦ;  3 καὶ ἔγραψα τοῦτο αὐτό, ἵνα  
μὴ ἐλθὼν λύπην σχῶ ἀφ᾿ ὧν ἔδει με  
χαίρειν, πεποιθὼς ἐπὶ πάντας ὑμᾶς  
ὅτι ἡ ἐμὴ χαρὰ πάντων ὑμῶν ἐστιν.

2COR. 2:1 EKRINA GAR EMAUTWi TOUTO TO MH PALIN EN LUPHi PROS hUMAS  
ELQEIN. 2 EI GAR EGW LUPW hUMAS, KAI TIS hO EUFRAINWN ME EI MH hO  
LUPOUMENOS EX EMOU; 3 KAI EGRAYA TOUTO AUTO, hINA MH ELQWN LUPHN SCW  
AF᾿ hWN EDEI ME CAIREIN, PEPOIQWS EPI PANTAS hUMAS hOTI hH EMH CARA  
PANTWN hUMWN ESTIN.

Alford and M.Harris say that AF᾿ hWN is elliptical for something like  
APO TOUTWV, AF' hWN Alford, or APO EKEINWN AF' hWN or  APO EKEINWN AF'  
hOIS Harris. I am a little skeptical about this. The expanded  
expressions do not occur in the GNT. I tried searching the TLG using  
several patterns to allow from changes in number and particles between  
the substrings. The only thing I found was OUK APO TOUTWN DE AF' hWN in

Sextus Empiricus Phil., Adversus mathematicos (0544: 002)
“Sexti Empirici opera, vols. 2 & 3 (2nd edn.)”, Ed. Mutschmann, H.,  
Mau, J.
Leipzig: Teubner, 2:1914; 3:1961.
Book 1, section 47, line 4

ματικὴ ἀπὸ τῆς τῶν γραμμάτων  
εἰδήσεως κατ' ἀρχὰς
ὀνομασθεῖσα διετάθη καὶ ἐπὶ τὴν ἐν  
τοῖς ποικιλωτέροις
αὐτῶν καὶ τεχνικωτέροις θεωρήμασι  
γνῶσιν. τάχα δέ, ὥς
φασιν οἱ περὶ τὸν Ἀσκληπιάδην,
καὶ αὐτὴ ἀπὸ μὲν γραμμάτων  
ὠνόμασται, οὐκ ἀπὸ τού-
των δὲ ἀφ' ὧν καὶ ἡ γραμματιστική,  
ἀλλ' ἐκείνη μέν, ὡς
ἔφην, ἀπὸ τῶν στοιχείων, αὕτη δὲ  
ἀπὸ τῶν συγγραμ-
μάτων περὶ οἷς πονεῖται. γράμματα  
γὰρ καὶ ταῦτα προς-
ηγορεύετο, καθὰ καὶ δημόσια καλοῦμεν  
γράμματα, καὶ
πολλῶν τινὰ γραμμάτων ἔμπειρον  
ὑπάρχειν φαμέν, τουτ-
έστιν οὐ τῶν στοιχείων ἀλλὰ τῶν  
συγγραμμάτων. καὶ

  MATIKH APO THS TWN GRAMMATWN EIDHSEWS KAT' ARCAS ONOMASQEISA DIETAQH  
KAI EPI THN EN TOIS POIKILWTEROIS AUTWN KAI TECNIKWTEROIS QEWRHMASI  
GNWSIN. TACA DE, hWS FASIN hOI PERI TON ASKLHPIADHN, KAI AUTH APO MEN  
GRAMMATWN WNOMASTAI, OUK APO TOUTWN DE AF' hWN KAI hH GRAMMATISTIKH,  
ALL' EKEINH MEN, hWS EFHN, APO TWN STOICEIWN, hAUTH DE APO TWN  
SUGGRAM- MATWN PERI hOIS PONEITAI. GRAMMATA GAR KAI TAUTA PROS-  
HGOREUETO, KAQA KAI DHMOSIA KALOUMEN GRAMMATA, KAI POLLWN TINA  
GRAMMATWN EMPEIRON hUPARCEIN FAMEN, TOUT- ESTIN OU TWN STOICEIWN ALLA  
TWN SUGGRAMMATWN. KAI
I am wondering why we should consider AF᾿ hWN elliptical for an  
expression which doesn't seem to be used, or at least isn't common.  
Perhaps I am overlooking something quite obvious.



Elizabeth Kline




---
B-Greek home page: http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek
B-Greek mailing list
B-Greek at lists.ibiblio.org
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-greek



      


More information about the B-Greek mailing list