[B-Greek] little problem

jerry gerald_davis at hotmail.com
Thu Mar 19 11:05:08 EDT 2009


Thanks,

Ya, ya, ya.  I see.  When I did the prepositions in the previous chapter I 
didn't really think, "prepositional phrase," because I was so intent on the 
meaning of the preposition relative to some other (where is it?) case of a 
noun.  Duh -- phrase.  I think this is going to help.  The "verb-less 
clause" issue.

What we ought to do, and maybe some people do, is take a year to really, 
really! learn grammar in general before we take on a different language.

But Mastronarde does try to teach what we need, in fact, in this chap 7 re. 
phrases and clauses.  I'm just a slow learner.

jerry

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From: "Shumaker, Dave" <DShumaker at bbc.edu>
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:25 AM
To: "jerry" <gerald_davis at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [B-Greek]  little problem

> Jerry,
> It seems to me that the problem with the translation, "the difficult 
> journey is along the river" is that it takes a prepositional phrase in the 
> attributive position and makes it into a verb-less clause.
>
> Para τὸν ποταμον being in the attributive position makes it a modifier of 
> ἡ ὁδος .
>
> I trust this helps,
>
> Dshumaker
>
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>
> Hey, y'all,
>
> No one is doing Mastronarde Unit Seven right now, and I have a problem.
>
> From Exercise II., 6.  ἡ παρὰ τὸν ποταμὸν ὁδος χαλεπή.
>
> The answer key says, "The road along the river is difficult," and I am 
> sure they thought that was easy for us beginners, especially since they 
> gave us the "along the river" example, earlier.
>
> But I had a problem with τὸν ποταμὸν being accusative, so I thought, in 
> context, "The difficult journey is beyond the river," would be a good 
> translation as a nice little metaphor; or, "The road is hard beyond the 
> river."
>
> So I guess that their suggestion has a couple implied verbs, "The 
> oad  -[which is]-  along the river -[is]- difficult."  I can live with 
> that, except when there seems to be good alternatives.
>
> -----
> jerry davis
> φλόριδα, USA
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