[B-Greek] 2COR. 10:10 hOTI hAI EPISTOLAI MEN, FHSIN ...
Iver Larsen
iver_larsen at sil.org
Sat Nov 28 03:49:25 EST 2009
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elizabeth Kline" <kline_dekooning at earthlink.net>
To: "Donald COBB" <docobb at orange.fr>
Cc: "greek B-Greek" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: 27. november 2009 21:47
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] 2COR. 10:10 hOTI hAI EPISTOLAI MEN, FHSIN ...
> 2Cor. 10:10 ὅτι αἱ ἐπιστολαὶ μέν, φησίν,
> βαρεῖαι καὶ ἰσχυραί, ἡ δὲ παρουσία
> τοῦ σώματος ἀσθενὴς καὶ ὁ λόγος
> ἐξουθενημένος.
> .
> 2COR. 10:10 hOTI hAI EPISTOLAI MEN, FHSIN, BAREIAI KAI ISCURAI, hH DE
> PAROUSIA TOU SWMATOS ASQENHS KAI hO LOGOS EXOUQENHMENOS.
>
> .
> On Nov 27, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Donald COBB wrote:
>
>> I wonder if the infrequent construction in the NT isn't because FHMI
>> is mostly used there in narrative passages, where word order is less
>> influenced by rhetorical flourishes (there are only 4 occurences of
>> FHMI outside the gospels and Acts, three of which are in Paul).
>>
>> I notice that in 1 Cor 6:16, Paul has a somewhat similar
>> construction to that of 2 Cor 10:10:
>>
>> [Ἢ] οὐκ οἴδατε ὅτι ὁ κολλώμενος τῇ
>> πόρνῃ ἓν σῶμά ἐστιν; Ἔσονται γάρ,
>> φησίν, οἱ δύο εἰς σάρκα μίαν. [H] OUK
>> OIDATE hOTI hO KOLLWMENOS THi PORNHi hEN SWMA ESTIN; ESONTAI GAR,
>> FHSIN, hOI DUO EIS SARKA MIAN
>
> So you think GAR in ESONTAI GAR, FHSIN, ... functions like hOTI in
> hOTI hAI EPISTOLAI MEN, FHSIN ...
>
> perhaps.
>
> Thank you,
Yes, I would agree that it does.
I am not able to search Koine texts outside the NT, but of the 66 examples of
the speech verb FHMI in the NT, not one of them is connected to hOTI as a speech
content introducer. I am aware that BAGD claims that in two instances FHMI is
followed by hOTI, but I beg to disagree with their analysis. These two are:
1 Cor 10:19: τί οὖν φημι; ὅτι εἰδωλόθυτόν τί ἐστιν ἢ ὅτι εἴδωλόν τί ἐστιν;
TI OUN FHMI? hOTI EIDWLOQUTON TI ESTIN H hOTI EIDWLON TI ESTIN?
The first question has the speech verb, but no speech content. The second has
two questions, but no speech introducer. The hOTI is not connected to FHMI.
1 Cor 15:50: Τοῦτο δέ φημι, ἀδελφοί, ὅτι σὰρξ καὶ αἷμα βασιλείαν θεοῦ
κληρονομῆσαι οὐ δύναται
TOUTO DE FHMI, ADELFOI, hOTI SARX KAI hAIMA BASILEIAN QEOU KLHRONOMHSAI OU
DUNATAI
Now, I am saying what I have just said, my brothers, because flesh and blood
cannot get access to God's Kingdom (Heaven).
Most translations take the hOTI here as "that", but it is better to take it as
"because". The context is not decisive, but the pattern of the usage of FHMI
strongly suggests that hOTI here means "because".
Iver Larsen
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