[B-Greek] Rom 10:3
Carl Conrad
cwconrad2 at mac.com
Sun Oct 11 20:50:57 EDT 2009
On Oct 11, 2009, at 7:19 PM, John Wilking wrote:
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> --- On Sun, 10/11/09, Carl Conrad <cwconrad2 at mac.com> wrote:
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> From: Carl Conrad <cwconrad2 at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Rom 10:3
> To: "John Wilking" <jcwilking at yahoo.com>
> Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 12:10 PM
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> On Oct 11, 2009, at 10:05 AM, John Wilking wrote:
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>> I'm trying to make sense of KAI THN IDIAN ZHTOUNTES STHSAI. If we
>> pick up DIKAIOSUNHN from the previous clause we are left with
>> STHSAI THN IDIAN DIKAIOSUNHN. Does something like this occur
>> elsewhere?
>
> The full text: Rom. 10:3 ἀγνοοῦντες γὰρ τὴν
> τοῦ θεοῦ δικαιοσύνην καὶ τὴν ἰδίαν
> [δικαιοσύνην] ζητοῦντες στῆσαι, τῇ
> δικαιοσύνῃ τοῦ θεοῦ οὐχ
> ὑπετάγησαν. [AGNOOUNTES GAR THN TOU QEOU DIKAIOSUNHN KAI
> THN IDIAN [DIKAIOSUNHN] ZHTOUNTES STHSAI, THi DIKAIOSUNHi TOU QEOU
> OUC hUPETAGHSAN. ]
>
> It's not altogether clear what it is you are asking. Is it, "What
> does STHSAI THN IDIAN DIKAIOSUNHN mean?" I'd say that the sense is
> something like "set up their own notion of what is fair" or "set up
> their own notion of what is right." Paul Tillich once suggested a
> trichotomy of "autonomy," "heteronomy," and "theonomy." In terms of
> that
> STHSAI THN IDIAN DIKAIOSUNHN might be equivalent to Tillich's term
> "autonomy," which I take to mean observance of principles that one
> chooses for him or herself rather than abiding by principles
> proposed by God.
>
> The nearest equivalent
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> JCW Or instances of similar structure that use different abstract
> nouns as a way of getting a handle on the semantics of the verb
> hISTHMI. For example, does something like STHSAI THN IDIAN KPISIN
> occur anywhere?
There is no other instance than the text I cited, Mark 7:9. As for
STHSAI, I think that BDAG s.v. hISTHMI #2 is right on target here:
this is a figurative extension of the literal sense, "cause to be in a
place or position."
> to the phrase in question that I find in the GNT is Mark 7:9 καὶ
> ἔλεγεν αὐτοῖς· καλῶς ἀθετεῖτε τὴν
> ἐντολὴν τοῦ θεοῦ, ἵνα τὴν
> παράδοσιν ὑμῶν στήσητε. [KAI ELEGEN AUTOIS·
> KALWS AQETEITE THN ENTOLHN TOU QEOU, hINA THN PARADOSIN hUMWN
> STHSHTE. ], something like, "You've got a neat way of nullifying
> God's commandment so as to put your own tradition in place."
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
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