[B-Greek] please explain
Carl Conrad
cwconrad2 at mac.com
Thu Sep 17 05:50:16 EDT 2009
On Sep 17, 2009, at 12:02 AM, Herb Picoski wrote:
> Hi All,
> I'm finding some inconsistencies with Verbs.
> That is, Why is the verb CREATED in second person plural, AORIST
> MIDDLE? Col.1:16.
> That would translate, " for in him ye set forth (created) for
> yourself all things", as if speaking in a prayer.
> And then at the end of the verse, the same verb, third person
> singular, FUTURE MIDDLE,
> Translated - "unto him he will set forth (create) for himself all
> things".
> At least the end verb should be in third person plural if "all
> things" is the subject.
> Please explain verb usage for ektisqh, and ektistai, both translated
> as aorist by KJV.
The inconsistencies are not in the verb-forms in the text but in your
parsing. You confuse the middle-passive verb-ending -SQE with the
combination of the passive marker -QH- with the verb-stem form KTIS-
Text: Col. 1:16 ὅτι ἐν αὐτῷ ἐκτίσθη τὰ
πάντα
ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς καὶ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς,
τὰ ὁρατὰ καὶ τὰ ἀόρατα,
εἴτε θρόνοι εἴτε κυριότητες
εἴτε ἀρχαὶ εἴτε ἐξουσίαι·
τὰ πάντα δι᾿ αὐτοῦ καὶ εἰς αὐτὸν
ἔκτισται·
[hOTI EN AUTWi EKTISQH TA PANTA
EN TOIS OURANOIS KAI EPI THS GHS,
TA hORATA KAI TA AORATA,
EITE QRONOI EITE KURIOTHTES
EITE ARCAI EITE EXOUSIAI·
TA PANTA DI᾿ AUTOU KAI EIS AUTON EKTISTAI·]
The verb forms in quesation are EKTISQH and EKTISTAI
Both are 3 sg. passive; EKTISQH is aorist; EKTISTAI is perfect tense.
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
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