[B-Greek] EN vs. EIS in John 16:13a - translation question
George F Somsel
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Mon Sep 21 09:40:31 EDT 2009
③marker of extension toward a goal that is understood to be within an area or condition,into:ἐνis somet.used w. verbs of motion where εἰςwould normally be expected (Diod S23, 8, 1 Ἄννων ἐπέρασε ἐν Σικελίᾳ [ANNWN EPERASE EN SIKELIAi]; Hero I 142, 7; 182, 4; Paus. 7, 4, 3 διαβάντες ἐν τῇ Σάμῳ [DIABANTES EN THi SAMWi]; Epict. 1, 11, 32; 2, 20, 33; Aelian, VH 4, 18; Vett. Val. 210, 26; 212, 6 al., s. index; Pel.-Leg.1, 4; 5; 2, 1; PParis10, 2 [145 b.c.] ἀνακεχώρηκεν ἐν Ἀλεξανδρείᾳ [ANAKEXWRHKEN EN ALECANDREIA]; POxy294, 4; BGU22, 13; Tob 5:5BA; 1 Macc 10:43; TestAbrB 2 p. 106, 23=Stone p. 60 [s. on the LXXThackeray25]; πέμψον αὐτοὺς ἐν πολέμῳ [PEMYON AUTOUS EN POLEMWi] En10:9; TestAbrA 6 p. 83, 22 [Stone p. 14] δάκρυα …ἐν τῷ νιπτῆρι πίπτοντα [DAKRUA ...EN TWi NPTHRI PIPTONTA]): εἰσέρχεσθαι [EISERXESQAI] Lk 9:46;
Rv 11:11; ἀπάγειν [APAGEIN] GJs 6:1; ἀνάγειν [ANAGEIN] 7:1; εἰσάγειν [EISAGEIN] 10:1; καταβαίνειν [KATABAINEIN] J 5:3(4) v.l.; ἀναβαίνειν [ANABAINEIN] GJs 22:13; ἀπέρχεσθαι [APERXESQAI] (Diod S23, 18, 5) Hs1:6; ἥκειν [hHKEIN] GJs 5:1; ἀποστέλλειν [APOSTELLEIN] 25:1. To be understood otherwise: ἐξῆλθεν ὁ λόγος ἐν ὅλῃ τῇ Ἰουδαίᾳ [ECHLQEN hO LOGOS EN hOLHi THi IOUDAIAi] the word went out = spread in all Judaea Lk 7:17; likew.1 Th 1:8.The metaphorical expr. ἐπιστρέψαι ἀπειθεῖς ἐν φρονήσει δικαίων [EPISTREYAI EN FRONHSEI DIKAIWN] turn the disobedient to the wisdom of the righteous Lk 1:17 is striking but consistent w. the basic sense of ἐν [EN]. S. also γίνομαι, δίδωμι, ἵστημι, καλέω [GINOMAI, DIDWMI, hISTHMI, KALEW], and τίθημι [TIQHMI]. ἐν μέσῳ [EN MESWi] among so
met. answers to the question ‘whither’ (B-D-F§215, 3) Mt 10:16; Lk 10:3; 8:7.
Arndt, W., Danker, F. W., & Bauer, W. (2000). A Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament and other early Christian literature. (3rd ed.) (s.v. ἐν). Chicago: University of Chicago Press.
george
gfsomsel
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From: Eric S. Weiss <papaweiss1 at yahoo.com>
To: b-greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 5:58:34 AM
Subject: [B-Greek] EN vs. EIS in John 16:13a - translation question
John 16:13a (NA-27/UBS 4): hOTAN DE ELQHi EKEINOS, TO PNEUMA THS ALHQEIAS,
hODHGHSEI hUMAS EN THi ALHQEIAi PASHi....
UBS 4 gives this reading a {B} rating, and lists the variant hODHGHSEI
hUMAS EIS PASAN THN ALHQEIAN as being that of the Byzantine textual
tradition, as well as in many other mss. Yet a look at Biblegateway.com
shows that all the English translations there give some form of "He will
lead/guide you into all the truth," which looks to be a translation of the
EIS variant, and not the NA-27/UBS text that has EN + the dative.
It seems to me that hODHGHSEI hUMAS EN THi ALHQEIAi PASHi describes the
manner or path in which the Spirit will lead/guide the disciples (and
hence Christians), rather than the goal or end-point of such
leading/guiding. I.e., the leading or guidance of the Spirit is one
controlled and directed by Truth - "He will lead/guide you in all [the]
truth" - rather than "He will lead/guide you into/to the truth."
If so, why do almost all translations opt for a translation of the EIS
textual variant instead of the NA-27/UBS 4 text, if that is indeed what
they're doing (assuming that "into" is not a likely translation of EN in
this passage)? How would you translate the NA/UBS text of John 16:13a if
you do not think "into all the truth" is a correct translation of
hODHGHSEI hUMAS EN THi ALHQEIAi PASHi?
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Eric S. Weiss
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