[B-Greek] Best book/appendix for Comprehensive Chart of Forms?

Stephen Baldwin stbaldwi at hotmail.com
Thu Sep 24 14:43:29 EDT 2009


Hello Louis, Ladies and Gentlemen:
I'm a bit of a morphology enthusiast ;-)
I own a number of the tomes you mention, Louis, and I think that Mounce's Morphology is the most comprehensive.
I bought it from my Greek teacher who described it as "a waste of money". Personally I think it should be added to the canon ;-)
It is the one I go to most often.
Kalos software [mentioned earlier] seems to be an interesting on-line produce for the morphthusiast. It is free to begin with, then if you don't subscribe, the product becomes increasingly lethargic...great ability to generate almost any paradigm you can dream of.
 

The downside with the books is the sloppy editing that seems to accompany these charts.
Even as  a relative novice however, I have found mistakes in Mounce's paradigms at the back of BBG. I'm almost on first name terms with Zondervan.
E.g. Latest one I found concerns the infinitve paradigms for MENW:

On page 376 (Appendix ss80 Infinitive paradigms), there is listed a liquid infinitive MENW. 

It is listed as follows:
Present middle/passive: MENESQAI
Future middle: <nothing given>
1st Aorist middle: MENEISQAI
2nd Aorist: MEINASQAI

i.e. F/A-M-Inf has been shifted over so that it looks like MENW has 1st and 2nd Aorist middle infinitive forms.

Just bad formatting/editing.

 

I'd be interested to know what you end up doing...

I have discovered that no single book seems to cover everything but from my own collection, if I had to pick just one, I'd go with MBG.

 

 

Rgds

Steve 

 

Stephen Baldwin

stbaldwi at hotmail.com
 

 
> From: llsorenson at hotmail.com
> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:20:10 -0500
> Subject: [B-Greek] Best book/appendix for Comprehensive Chart of Forms?
> 
> 
> What are people's favorite chart/book to use for a COMPLETE list of forms. I'm looking for something that includes full paradigms of all the nouns, adjective, pronouns, numbers, verbs, irregular verbs, etc.. It's for an intermediate class who really has had no "go to" list of charts, just an incomplete and hard to read beginning grammar appendices' "list of forms". Preferably, it has side-by-side comparisons of different moods for the verb, esp. the indicative and subjunctive. I have not seen the out of print "Enchiridion". Personally, I use Smyth, but that is overkill for many. Mounce could be a good goto grammar but the indexes are so poor and often when I have told intermediate students to find a form in the back, it is missing. Preferably, the book is a standalone list, available in print at a low cost. It would also be great for it to be the size of a USB GNT - I would not mind having a list myself in the back of my GNT when I am stumped.
> 
> Here is a list of ones I have looked at.
> 
> Smyth - the best, but not Koine and not a short book 
> Mastronarde (Introduction to Attic Greek) - one of the best, but classical
> Kroy (Primer) - just cardinal numbers 1-4, no chart of vowel contractions, not grouped together chartlike - every paradigm is another entry
> Mounce (BBG) - very good, just number 1 EIS declined, moods not side by side; just the relative pronoun hOS hH hO - none of the compound pronouns such as OUDEIS; Pronouns: Just ΕGO and SU (not UMETEROS,HMETEROS, AUTOS)
> Summers (Essentials of NT Greek)
> Baugh (Primer)
> Paine (Beginning Greek)
> Colwell/Tune (A Beginner's Reader's Grammar)
> Buth (Living Koine)
> Rico (Polis)
> Geannikis: Greek Paradigm Handbook (2008) Looks too big (not compact enough - too much page turning and is classical)
> Wallace: Basics of Biblical Syntax (seems to have no list of forms)
> 
> Online Lists of Paradigms:
> Mastronarde:Ancient Greek Tutorials
> Smyth: Perseus Philologic CCEL Textkit (pdf)
> Funk (not completed)
> Eton Greek Project
> 
> Louis Sorenson
> 
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